Ms. LC.... I have absolutely nothing to add to this topic, but find I must comment on what appears to be your 'going to town' duds with a nice apple to welcome the Fall Season. Nothing like a smart dressed mouse in MHO :) Hope you all are having a wonderful day.
Thank you! You don't think it's too early for Halloween wear then? I was worried I was rushing the season a bit. I am modeling my Halloween costume that I will be wearing to FrightFest at Six Flaggs next weekend, I am taking a couple of younger rodents with me. I am a female mouseketteer.
You are the cutest little blue frog! I hope your day is going excellent too!
Cinnamon Girl said
Oct 19, 2014
Tig56 wrote:
Thanks for digging into that Jill! >>>Ewwhh!!<<< I don't think I would've enjoyed being the laboratory techs involved in determining those viral counts.
Tig
I know, Tig, I hope they were supplied with pegs for their noses!
justvlm said
Oct 19, 2014
Ms. LC.... I have absolutely nothing to add to this topic, but find I must comment on what appears to be your 'going to town' duds with a nice apple to welcome the Fall Season. Nothing like a smart dressed mouse in MHO :) Hope you all are having a wonderful day.
Tig said
Oct 19, 2014
Thanks for digging into that Jill! >>>Ewwhh!!<<< I don't think I would've enjoyed being the laboratory techs involved in determining those viral counts.
Tig
Cinnamon Girl said
Oct 19, 2014
Definitely! Well, I beat the virus and now I`m fighting a new battle...the ageing process. Unfortunately there`s no cure for that though!
LC said
Oct 19, 2014
Nov 11 is also Veteran's Day in the states where we celebrate our military, a good day to win a battle.
Cinnamon Girl said
Oct 19, 2014
I found an old study which indicated that quantifiable Hep C virus could be found in the fecal matter of people with a chronic HCV infection but there doesn`t seem to be much written about this subject...
Here`s a quote from that article.. "Therefore, bile and feces are human secretions in which the virus is possibly excreted. Whether HCV was excreted in an infectious form remains to be addressed. We conclude that HCV RNA was frequently found in large amounts in feces from patients chronically infected with HCV."
As I said, this is an old study. I`ll let you know if I come across anything else.
Funny about the dates, LC, we both had something to celebrate then!
Tig said
Oct 19, 2014
I haven't read anything that actually states the HCV virus, once dead or prevented from replicating, is actually expelled from the body. I haven't found any studies on stool or urine examinations for HCV viral remnants following successful antiviral Tx. The body has the ability to reabsorb or assimilate (The Borg) the useless remnants. Remember too, that HCV can only be transmitted by blood contact and must be a live virus to do so. It doesn't behave in a similar fashion to the cold and flu viruses, which can be spread in any bodily fluid or matter. The current Ebola scare reminds us of that.
Here's a 2009 article on the white blood cell action on viruses. Helps to understand how our own immune system destroys (consumes) them. Another forum reference to the blood action and last a nursing school description on how it happens. Cool graphics anyway, lol! I hope it helps distinguish how different some of these viruses act.
Now we have 4 different answers. The funny thing is, they all make sense! Jill, your SRV date is my birthday.
-- Edited by LC on Sunday 19th of October 2014 07:17:20 PM
Cinnamon Girl said
Oct 19, 2014
Hi LC, very basically, the way that most treatment drugs work is by interfering with or blocking the complex process of virus replication, rather than killing the actual virus itself.
I wouldn`t worry too much about your poo...any virus particles that it contains are unlikely to be infectious as HCV is transmitted by blood contact only, as far as we know. But obviously, the usual hygiene precautions apply!
Huey said
Oct 19, 2014
It winds up in the Bilirubin and goes out through the renal tract in your urine, The dead virions that is, the live ones are in our blood.
LC said
Oct 18, 2014
I suspected as much. Thank you Trainhopper!
Trainhopper said
Oct 18, 2014
Having been in the tattoo industry, and taking blood borne path. classes I know its in our fecal matter. And obviously in our blood but yeah other then that.... It's all I know
LC said
Oct 18, 2014
I will ask the nurse when I go back in, maybe she will know. Google isn't much help so far, but I realize it's a weird question.
Dzdayscomin said
Oct 18, 2014
Interesting question, my guess is all
LC said
Oct 18, 2014
I am wondering if it is leaving via our poo, urine, or if it self destructs inside us when the medicines beat up on it? I've been flipping off every flush just in case.
-- Edited by LC on Sunday 19th of October 2014 12:27:56 AM
Thank you!
You don't think it's too early for Halloween wear then? I was worried I was rushing the season a bit. I am modeling my Halloween costume that I will be wearing to FrightFest at Six Flaggs next weekend, I am taking a couple of younger rodents with me. I am a female mouseketteer. 
You are the cutest little blue frog! I hope your day is going excellent too!
I know, Tig, I hope they were supplied with pegs for their noses!
Ms. LC.... I have absolutely nothing to add to this topic, but find I must comment on what appears to be your 'going to town' duds with a nice apple to welcome the Fall Season. Nothing like a smart dressed mouse in MHO :) Hope you all are having a wonderful day.
Thanks for digging into that Jill! >>>Ewwhh!!<<< I don't think I would've enjoyed being the laboratory techs involved in determining those viral counts.
Tig
Definitely! Well, I beat the virus and now I`m fighting a new battle...the ageing process. Unfortunately there`s no cure for that though!
I found an old study which indicated that quantifiable Hep C virus could be found in the fecal matter of people with a chronic HCV infection but there doesn`t seem to be much written about this subject...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC87401/
Here`s a quote from that article.. "Therefore, bile and feces are human secretions in which the virus is possibly excreted. Whether HCV was excreted in an infectious form remains to be addressed. We conclude that HCV RNA was frequently found in large amounts in feces from patients chronically infected with HCV."
As I said, this is an old study. I`ll let you know if I come across anything else.
Funny about the dates, LC, we both had something to celebrate then!
I haven't read anything that actually states the HCV virus, once dead or prevented from replicating, is actually expelled from the body. I haven't found any studies on stool or urine examinations for HCV viral remnants following successful antiviral Tx. The body has the ability to reabsorb or assimilate (The Borg) the useless remnants. Remember too, that HCV can only be transmitted by blood contact and must be a live virus to do so. It doesn't behave in a similar fashion to the cold and flu viruses, which can be spread in any bodily fluid or matter. The current Ebola scare reminds us of that.
Here's a 2009 article on the white blood cell action on viruses. Helps to understand how our own immune system destroys (consumes) them. Another forum reference to the blood action and last a nursing school description on how it happens. Cool graphics anyway, lol! I hope it helps distinguish how different some of these viruses act.
http://www.brighthub.com/science/genetics/articles/15373.aspx
http://www.biology-online.org/biology-forum/about839.html?hilit=Cd2
http://www.austincc.edu/apreview/EmphasisItems/Inflammatoryresponse.html
Tig
Now we have 4 different answers.
The funny thing is, they all make sense! Jill, your SRV date is my birthday.
-- Edited by LC on Sunday 19th of October 2014 07:17:20 PM
Hi LC, very basically, the way that most treatment drugs work is by interfering with or blocking the complex process of virus replication, rather than killing the actual virus itself.
I wouldn`t worry too much about your poo...any virus particles that it contains are unlikely to be infectious as HCV is transmitted by blood contact only, as far as we know. But obviously, the usual hygiene precautions apply!
It winds up in the Bilirubin and goes out through the renal tract in your urine, The dead virions that is, the live ones are in our blood.
Having been in the tattoo industry, and taking blood borne path. classes I know its in our fecal matter. And obviously in our blood but yeah other then that.... It's all I know
Interesting question, my guess is all
I am wondering if it is leaving via our poo, urine, or if it self destructs inside us when the medicines beat up on it?
I've been flipping off every flush just in case. 
-- Edited by LC on Sunday 19th of October 2014 12:27:56 AM