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Iris, my rheumatologist told me that with my symptoms and the bones eroding it was either rheumatoid arthritis OR pseudo rheumatoid arthritis caused by hep c.



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5 weeks VL undetected. AST 16  ALT 10

VL 5,930,000  AST 29 ALT 29

Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

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Yeah, Great news!!
I don't know that Hep C causes arthritis, but I believe it aggravates it big time. My achy joins are feeling slightly better since ending Tx.
BB, Iris

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Got the results from last week's blood work. After just 5 days on Harvoni my AST dropped to 22 and ALTto 20. These tests were requested by my rheumatologist. All the other test results turned out OK so it looks like it's the hep c causing my arthritis

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5 weeks VL undetected. AST 16  ALT 10

VL 5,930,000  AST 29 ALT 29

Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

Treatment naive, starting Harvoni 9/23/18 8 weeks

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Polosilver,

Thanks for the good news. I'm glad you are getting better and are giving it time.  I'm also glad that your ultrasound interpretation were not so real.

I agree with Canuck who agrees with 5.  Don't try to push the river.  You're progressing well and still need to be gentle with yourself.

 

Karyl and George,

Good good news from you, too, and I love the idea of paying it forward.  Thanks for that reminder.  Tell George you need a little extra nursing for a while and need to sleep like a cat. Cat are good at both.

 

Hoodsterator,

WowWee!  EOT is in sight and your making good plans already.  I love it.

 

 



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Karyl,

I'm with 5 - I am glad they pushed you off home - take your leave when you can and as needed. I am glad you are listening to your body and are paying attention to everything you need to.

Hopefully your adjustment to the treatment drugs will be short and a fairly smoothly transition, perhaps things will not interfere for you too much or for too long. My fingers are crossed that with good rest, lots of water, eating well and treating and soothing yourself as good as possible, your treatment IS going to become easier for you as you go along.

If you did not already have a "pre-set" med-taking plan for your Harvey and PPI, I would have said (otherwise), if you could have, to try taking your harvoni with a meal. Food "sometimes" helps minimize/buffer/mask some sensations/gastric issues (perhaps a bit) that you may be associating as happening after you take the harvoni, additionally, you may find the gastric things may just end up decreasing (all on their own) over a bit more time of being on these meds - some people DO seem to get "used to" the drugs, and the gastric issues become less. I hope and expect so for you anyway.

Nice that you have all these other Harvey-folks around here and in near threads (and all over this site) to compare notes with. Aside from specific Harvey symptoms and such, just things like what you and "CandaceV" (for instance) found in common - she and her husband were also pleasantly surprised at the generosity of others when they had help to cover co-pay for epclusa by "PAN". 

We love people, (and critters of all sorts) around here, as you could probably guess (by the way we were fawning all over your George) - you'll have to search up "IsisCat" as well to see that cutey (For LC and Isiscat). 

Modify your work as best you can to suit how you happen to be feeling ... 5 has it correct when she states ... "in no time you will be back to a regular schedule but for now the harvoni is queen for the daynod.gif , the main event" ... so, I agree with 5, just go with the flow, treat yourself like a Queen also, modify things where you have to and as you need to, but I am betting (overall) that the 12 weeks will go smoother and faster than you might be thinking or expecting. Take leaves or vacation (or not) or whatever you can make work for you, just try NOT to push and stress yourself, this will only be 12 weeks (out of the rest of your life). smile C.



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Thanks Canuck! Good to see you e-voice and thanks for the good words. I was definitely clicking my heels when I got my results this week. It seems the 'severe calcification' was some error in interpretation of the previous single ultrasound...I've now been interpreted from head to toe on the inside and my kibbles & bits are minimal and I will continue to use caution in food choices. It was a bit of a scare and a good reminder to remain vigilant and make wise choice. Hope all is well up there in Canada land. What a beautiful country you reside in. 

 

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HCV VL 414,000, AST 54, ALT 74.  4 weeks AST 34 and ALT 31, SVR, Jan 2018. 

12 week EOT, AST 20 & ALT 23 and still VL UND.

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Hahahaha POLO! I appreciate seeing you switch to using that new avatar! I loved that carboy one when it cruised through here once before - glad you chose it to display it as your new personal best, (you do us all a great service by owning it and showing it) as it is such an important message (and reminder), and, that pic gets it across in spades! That image always makes me giggle. heehee

I am glad all your imaging is looking good and/or better - just what we want and need, and that you are feeling better (better than the old days), and, better than you expected or knew you would! Even bigger bonus. You guys call it the Harvoni bomb for good reason. So MANY good people Harvoni has helped!

Many of us feel the same eh?, we (of the new DAA era) were so very lucky to get these drugs.

Nice to see your positive posts and ALL the good Harvoni feedback here. wink C.

 

 

 



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Karyl -- you are doing the right thing,,listening to your body and letting it heal, just follow your own yellow brick road to the land of OZ, and click those Harvoni heels..you got to play on love...another starship tune..good message in this one

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi9Pkyg501I



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Female,1a,F2 mod fibrosis,HCV 06/2017,SOT 08/04/2017, Harvoni

HCV VL 414,000, AST 54, ALT 74.  4 weeks AST 34 and ALT 31, SVR, Jan 2018. 

12 week EOT, AST 20 & ALT 23 and still VL UND.

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Polosilver. That's great news. No extra energy for me yet. Just tummy issues for a couple hrs then woozy unsteadiness for a couple more then normal until fatigue sets in in the afternoon.

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5 weeks VL undetected. AST 16  ALT 10

VL 5,930,000  AST 29 ALT 29

Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

Treatment naive, starting Harvoni 9/23/18 8 weeks

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Hoodie. Lol. Yep. Thank Dog.. or thank all the gods and goddesses... I looked at their Website and there was a place to make donations so I decided that after my treatment ends I'm going to add them to my list of monthly donations and pay it forward in some small way.

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65 yo  40+ yrs geno 1a 

5 weeks VL undetected. AST 16  ALT 10

VL 5,930,000  AST 29 ALT 29

Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

Treatment naive, starting Harvoni 9/23/18 8 weeks

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polosilver, congrats on your good news!! that truly is righteous

Karyl, thank God (or thank Dog if youre so inclined lol) for those wonderful people at the Healthwell Foundation. That is truly awesome. 

             



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I love Harvoni, it gave me so much more life back....my overall health is improving a year later. I just got great news. I had a round of ultrasounds nearly head to toe on Monday and doc says all is looking good with minimal plaque, and even my liver is toning up and looking better. Righteous! 

..and now a special song 

Rest in Peace Marty Balin, loved watching them play and sing back in the day..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2zds1aRwAo 

 Hoodie --- love your harvoni healing lifeback plan!! Awesome...you go girl!!

 



-- Edited by polosilver on Friday 28th of September 2018 10:43:47 PM

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HCV VL 414,000, AST 54, ALT 74.  4 weeks AST 34 and ALT 31, SVR, Jan 2018. 

12 week EOT, AST 20 & ALT 23 and still VL UND.

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I'm familiar with the Healthwell Foundation, we have their contact information here on the forum. A very good organization, that has done excellent work for many people. Nice to know they came to your aid.



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i too got 0 copay...it's so good to know there are good ppl out there wanting to see us get well  



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I'm a humanist and have no belief in any higher power other than science but I do believe we are all in this world together so it's our duty to be kind and do as much as we can for the other occupants of the planet. I am involved in a homeless outreach and I give monthly to ASPCA and St Judes Children's Research Hospital.  That said, during this time I've been blessed by other's kindness.  #1  My boss is quite understanding.  I'm taking today off because at month end my desk isn't full of stuff and the boss said "go home" at 2pm yesterday, and then "take tomorrow off".   and #2 and this is the biggie.....I'VE FOUND OUT WHO THE WIZARDS ARE WHO GOT ME MY HARVONI FOR ZERO DOLLARS!!!!!

Yesterday's mail had a letter from The HealthWell Foundation.  This is where that other wizard at the pharmacy applied to for me for assistance.  The letter states they have given me a 12 month grant of $30,000 from the Hep C Fund.  This is what is paying for my high co-pays.  Please spread the word.  The Foundation is for people who HAVE insurance, including medicare etc and who's household income is less than 500% of the federal poverty level.  That is most of us middle class folk. If you know someone who needs this kind of help like I do tell them to go to www.healthwellfoundation.org

Good morning everyone!  George is gobbling up his breakfast and it's going to be a beautiful day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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5 weeks VL undetected. AST 16  ALT 10

VL 5,930,000  AST 29 ALT 29

Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

Treatment naive, starting Harvoni 9/23/18 8 weeks

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i'm glad they sent you home karyl. maybe they can give you a flex schedule for now or go home when you need to. see if you can work fewer days a week for now. or check into the fmla or dr's note for fewer days.

yes, water and sleep and hang in there.

work was the hardest for me, not wanting to let them down....  

plus the sides did come and go , i never felt really well but didn't always feel sick either.

i had to switch my time from 3pm to 3am becos of the side effects. i did it carefully under the supervision of the pharmacy..... i went back an hour or two at a time after a 4 hour jump back. finally arriving at the time that worked best for me to sleep thru.

i go to bed at 5 am pacific time since i work a late swing; and they let me go home early every nite.

in no time you will be back to a regular schedule but for now the harvoni is queen for the day , the main event, the focus of the day.

i love the pic of the siblings and so glad george is being there for you



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Karyl,

i really like your avatar pic of you and your george.

it sounds like your morning routine is good, taking your pill then resting in bed until you can have your morning java and get your day going.

its pretty hard for anyone to predict how long these sides will affect you, I was on different drugs but I found my sides morphed from one thing to another.

Most of our members found their system and sides mellowed out after one-three weeks so treat yourself super nice, drink water till youre frequently floating to the loo to help flush the drugs and virus out and hang in there.smile

 



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Oh my gosh I could never do that! Youre a lot tough than i am. Hang in there it gets better. 



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I get approx 7-8 hrs a night. I have sleep issues and wake often during the night.  But I go to bed early and stay in bed resting at least for around 10 hrs.  I have to take my pill with my PPI on an empty stomach so I take them as soon as I wake up with a big glass of water and then lay in bed for a while before getting up to make coffee and start my day. 



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5 weeks VL undetected. AST 16  ALT 10

VL 5,930,000  AST 29 ALT 29

Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

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Hi Karyl my advice is to sleep 10 to 12 hours a night. If you have to wake up at 7 AM for work, set your pill time to 7 PM and be in bed by 730. You might wake up naturally around 630 without an alarm if youre anything like me. I found that getting approx 10 to 11 hours during the week and at least 12 hours on weekend nights really helps with my sanity brain fog depression and fatigue. How much are you sleeping now? You might need to bump it up. 

I also start drinking water early and stop early so that I have a full night in bed without having to get up to use the bathroom. Ive had varying degrees of success on that one.

Heres what a good day looks like for me:

Drink 50 ounces of water before leaving for work 

Drink 80 ounces of water throughout the day at work

Drink 25 ounces of water in the car on the way home from work no more water after this

Take my pill at 7:30 PM with a sip or two to wash it down

In bed by 8 oclock, wake up naturally around 630 before my 7 AM alarm   

sleep sleep sleep water water water, lather rinse repeat. I have exactly 21 days left of this routine and then Ill add back in my morning hikes and yoga at EOT. 

 

Edited to add:  This routine was carefully honed through the awesome help of  Canuck, Tig, 5-1-18, Iris, See the light, Observer, Cheddy and other marvelously helpful people in this forum. Follow their advice and youll be just fine  



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Welp, yesterday I felt the same as Monday and in fact my boss sent me home at 3pm. My daughter, who works with me, told me everyone thinks I should take some time off but I do my work when I'm there, just very swimmy headed. I surely hope this passes in a week or two.  I have a week vacation time left this year but I've been saving it thinking the side effects may get WORSE.  Any advice?



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5 weeks VL undetected. AST 16  ALT 10

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Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

Treatment naive, starting Harvoni 9/23/18 8 weeks

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He's a great one!  thanks.  Here he is with his sister who went to Rainbow Bridge two years ago. See? He's ready to bite her butt.  He's very mean to our rottie too. He slaps her in the face. But he loves his mama!



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65 yo  40+ yrs geno 1a 

5 weeks VL undetected. AST 16  ALT 10

VL 5,930,000  AST 29 ALT 29

Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

Treatment naive, starting Harvoni 9/23/18 8 weeks

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karyl, i love your new avatar with george as your copilot



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Thanks for the reminder and I'm hanging!  The first day I DID drink the recommended GALLON.  Nearly floated away.  Now I'm drinking at least 8 glasses of water plus 3 cups of coffee in the morning. I have a liter bottle on my desk at work and I make myself drink the whole thing at work.  Then a couple more before and after work.



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5 weeks VL undetected. AST 16  ALT 10

VL 5,930,000  AST 29 ALT 29

Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

Treatment naive, starting Harvoni 9/23/18 8 weeks

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Changing my Avatar as a reminder that if you are taking Harvoni, drink lots of water! I went in and out of feeling a rush of new energy, to tired and draggy with brain fog. I was at my best when I remembered to drink at least 8-10 glasses of water per day. Some need more, I'm a smallish person, so I found what was best for me. What was most important was to trust the process and let the Harvoni work its splendidly scientific magic in the body.  I recall in the first days feeling as if I felt different than the old draggy brain fogged Hepc'd person. I so wanted to give HepC the boot out of my body that all minuscule occurrences were noted. I came out on the other end HepC free. Hang in!

 



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HCV VL 414,000, AST 54, ALT 74.  4 weeks AST 34 and ALT 31, SVR, Jan 2018. 

12 week EOT, AST 20 & ALT 23 and still VL UND.

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Absolutely, I just wanted to point out that some of these RA medications have the same financial assistance programs as these Hep C drugs. I know some patients aren’t advised of them and go without, much like we did before the Hep C programs were started. 

I agree, one leg at a time!



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yes, I've been warned about the RA med costs but I just gotta put my pants on one leg at a time!  Onward!



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5 weeks VL undetected. AST 16  ALT 10

VL 5,930,000  AST 29 ALT 29

Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

Treatment naive, starting Harvoni 9/23/18 8 weeks

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Hey Carol,

That‘s very promising information regarding the day of almost normalcy! Very often these treatments are the roughest during the first two to three weeks and then things start to smooth out. At least with more regularity. I hope that’s what you’re experiencing now. Let’s go with hope!

I kind of agree, Gilead probably provided their copay coupon to your pharmacy. That happens with some frequency, but you’re usually notified of it. Gilead, while selling very unreasonably priced medications and getting called out on it continually, started providing payment assistance and copay coverage, more often. It’s what they should do, imo. The access to generics is worldwide, but not readily accessible in North America. They recognize that and I think providing help to some of us, has gotten their halo polished a bit. That applies to Big Pharm in general and many of these new medications. Since you’re dealing with RA, you know how expensive those new biologics are. They are also offering payment assistance with them. If you are ever prescribed one of them, be sure and investigate that as well.

We are all blessed with this opportunity!  



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Iris, I've been reading a lot of your posts and I'm so happy your journey has ended. I'm sure in a week or so you will be back to your old pre hep c self.  I have no idea how bumpy my ride will be but if yesterday, where I felt almost normal, is any indication, mine might go really well.  I'm just gonna take one day at a time.   Like you, I'm amazed and so very grateful that I was able to hop on this train. Got a letter from my ins. company approving 12 weeks should I need it and telling me my co-pay was almost 3900.00 but the pharmacy charged me zero. I'm wondering if the wizards over there got Gilead to pick up the co-pay or they don't charge one. Either way, I'm blessed.



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VL 5,930,000  AST 29 ALT 29

Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

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Canuck , I am a bookkeeper for a CPA. I am 65 years old and still working full time . I thought and planned the timing of my treatment so that I would be well over it by year end when I have to do the really important things like Payroll reports in year end like W 2s. My boss has been very supportive of me and told me to do what I have to do And they would manage somehow. But I don't see the possibility of taking any more than a day off here and there and leaving early and going to the docs and labs. I also have a rheumatologist working with me Because I'm having bad arthritis issues that Are much more than just joint pain. I also have bone erosion in my right foot. My rheumatologist said she cannot treat me until the hep C is gone. Interestingly , yesterday I felt pretty normal. No high or dizziness. I hope that holds on for a while.

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Fibroscore .40 Stage F1-2

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I get ya Iris - it was your house cleaning frenzy you described that I was thinking of, that this "spring cleaning" coulda (sorta) been your Harvoni high (or your version of a Harvoni high) - the rest of it (from being lead to fatigue), well ... just was/is - this rule about how everyone if different? ... there sure IS a lot of truth to it!!, people may or may not get a "high" and there can be so many forms of highs, and you can't predict exactly if or when you might feel a high either! So hard to predict/anticipate these things. You have read here over the years how some people feel not really that much dif than normal and others get to feeling many things!

My experience was profound fatigue, with a shortish period of overlapping/underlying kinda "frenetic" feelings (hardly a "productive high"!), just a curious/cruel "mix" and twist to the fatigue - a fogged, tired, dead brain trying to be jittery and wired! - mostly it was just very thick fatigue - I did not enjoy what I was feeling while going through treatment but I was so, SO, SO relieved and grateful and hopeful and thrilled to be on my hard-won drugs - EVERY minute was gold and very worth it, those very positive feelings, the very positive "act" I was performing (being treated) made up for EVERYTHING negative I felt. (But remember, I DID have profound fatigue before I was on Vosevi as well). I was happy to take those pills no mater what i felt.  I was surprised how I felt on treatment, and how long it took for me to get feeling better, to feel stronger, more right - BUT - IT DID COME!!!! biggrin  Karyl's kids have put me to mind of a short period of time during my treatment when my partner took my car keys away from me, and i was glad he did and I cooperated, that no driving thing didn't last too long either. In fits and starts, bit by bit, here and there, in no predictable order, and sometimes in odd ways I got better post-treatment. I am STILL noticing improvements over time. 

So, keep being patient, and un-afraid - the past is past, the treatment part is over and has been a huge success, and you will start feeling better (quickly or maybe in fits and starts like me). You will feel better when you have recovered longer. How you felt on-treatment, and this part, is temporary.

Karyl you mentioned "work", do you mean work/work like ... as in "a job" work, or did you mean just as in everything else we have to do everyday??  Like Hoodie and 5 and Shemp and nathanW and many others around here who speak of their jobs, we do have to juggle and balance our energies necessary for treatment safely to our demands of work, for me the decision was easy (or easier) given my personal circumstances - me modifying my "work" or duties I was needing to perform, even such as not driving for a while, was OK and good (required/acceptable). 

We have to treat ourselves with kind kid gloves, like we are the precious tender commodities we are, to help ourselves through treatment and recover and regain our new-found HCV-free balance.

5 said ... "no matter what weirdness happens it's happening for the good" ... and she is right. biggrin C.



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I was a lead weight, started to feel better at about 6 or 7 weeks. I wouldn't have called it speedy, more like long lost energy. And then I crashed the day after the last pill, (I was on for 12 weeks) and still drained today :(
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hi karyl, keep a notebook of symptoms and t:climes of day. it's also allergy season. stay home as much as possible. if work becomes troublesome then see your doctor for an fmla or time off.

i had fog brain, fuzzy wuzzy headedness and eventually some dizzyness. hubby got the wired thing, but he's always moving anyway.

no matter what weirdness happens it's happening for the good of your whole being:float: , you can ride it out for 8? weeks? 

somehow we manage since we know the goodness of the harvoni

i'm so happy you have george



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You’re not likely to be experiencing the speedy aspect of it yet. First comes the fatigue and out of sorts feeling, and that takes a week or three to gradually let up. Most often, the people I’ve spoken to, tend to experience the buzzed feeling more toward the end. Some experience some joint discomfort as well. Just know, it’s not a long term thing and your kitty, George will probably be unhappy when the naps get fewer in between.



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I have read about the Harvoni High and people say it's a speedy high.  Mine is not.   I was wondering if anybody else felt like I do.  Like I said in my previous post. Mornings I'm good. I'm curious how this will play out.  In the meantime, my kitty George is riding this train all the way to the end with me, he follows me around like a dog.



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Hi Carol,

That sounds like it could be both a bother and a blessing. The stoned thing, that is! Be careful in the meantime and if your daughter says no driving, it’s probably a good idea. I hope the strange feeling will subside in the next week or two. It’s not uncommon to have an adjustment period after starting these medications. There are some powerful changes going on right now, so some changes can be expected. We have talked about the “Harvoni High” in other threads, it’s real. Your metabolism is working overtime to slay this Dragon! 



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I seem better in the morning. By the afternoon I feel stoned! Not speedy stoned but weed stoned. Anybody else get this? My daughter says at least I look happy and the consensus is they think I shouldn't be driving.

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Karyl, you are doing the right thing...get the rest you need! You are going to feel better soon,,,drink lots of water and rest as you can. I was on Harvoni treatment this time last year and a year later, I feel so much better than I had felt in years. Hang in there!

 

 

 



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aaaweeee ,sweet george on the harvoni train with you at every nap and bedtime



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Sorry I'm a bit late to the welcome party Karyl, but wishing you all the best on your journey also. biggrin.gif

and Yes, George is gorgeous smile Sure he'll give mum lots of love on her journey, especially if it means ooh goodie bed time again LOL



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He has his moments.  lol.  We lost his littermate and identical twin sister a couple years back due to thyroid issues and kidney failure. He has the same thyroid problem but he's hanging in their, to torment the dog and my daughter's cat.  LOL. He can be a mean boy.  He only has eyes for me!  Everybody else gets boxed by his left hook!



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Awwwww George, what a good kitty! 



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Thank you . I need hugs. My cat's name is George. He's 17. He sleeps right next to me and was very happy for early bedtime last day. Day 2! For me just 54 more. I am blessed. Now to see if I can work all day...

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5,

It's that same warm, very long and tight - all enveloping "Harvoni hug" you are all getting!  Such a comfort Gilead gives to us!  Onward soldiers. SVR 12's are just around the corner!  : )

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i find it warm and exciting also C



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Ah, what a nice thread this is, one Harvey-line passenger finishing/dis-embarking/arriving safely at the station, while another is just embarking/departing on the start of their journey, both in varying states of relief and excitement to be where they are!

Iris, I love the videos you find! - the three tunnels, and the analogy, the first definitely feeling the longest! heehee  Let the soothing healing warmth of that Harvoni high that wrapped itself around your shoulders since day one continue soothing and guarding you right through to SVR12. 

Karyl, I am so glad for you that you got your start - what a whirlwind eh?, just a mere week or so ago you were feeling stuck and mired in unknowns, and look at you now - suddenly in complete positive forward motion - Day One done - yay! I could ask ya millions of questions, about how you are doing, feeling, hx, but instead I'll just ask ... what is your cats name! :)

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Thx! Early dinner and I just gave up and I'm already in bed.

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Karyl wrote:

Haha. Never had one in my life. Was just thinking out loud. I'm afraid one of those bad boys would trigger my panic disorder. Just what I don't need.


 me either .hahahaha.

i'd be afraid of panic attacks too.... so glad to hear you were wishing out loud.

i hope you get some good rest and relaxing today



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Haha. Never had one in my life. Was just thinking out loud. I'm afraid one of those bad boys would trigger my panic disorder. Just what I don't need.

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Karyl wrote:

Day 1. Drank at least a gallon of water. Peed about every 30 mins. Drank lots of coffee. Ate good food. Got on the sleeper car in the early afternoon tho. Need an energy drink I think....or enid time to just sleep thru 8 weeks


 congrats on starting treatment,.... i know it's such a great feeling

 

energy drinks have stuff in there that might affect the daa... please chk it out first



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