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Hi Leslie,  Sorry to hear about the little guy, but maybe there is an answer.  Many years ago I ran a little clinic for Hiv positive kids (Mostly boys, but one girl) where we did martial arts, wrestling and whatever else they wanted to do.  While these kids were Hiv positive, they had just as much energy and toughness as any kid and in fact many kids would come from the rest of the school just to watch them spar.
Is there any way you can link up with other kids with Hep C in a support group and maybe find another kid with his type who wants to spar?  I don't know, maybe it's just a dream, but I do know it changed the lives of those kids I taught thirty years ago.  Hope this helps a little, tysmile

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Hi,

sorry for the lateness of reply, my game for participation is martial arts, not boxing - but I am a life long boxing fanatic, so I looked this up for you.

The ABA rules can be found at

http://www.abae.co.uk/aba/assets/File/Medical_Aspects_final_edit_tcm97-170507.pdf   - Page 46 is the ruling that forbids competing).

It stops the lad boxing whilst carrying the virus, my heart goes out to the lad, but even with amateur boxing and headguards - nose bleeds are common and cuts can happen.

Martials arts is the same, I only participated after clearing the virus and remaining virus free for a matter of time before considering going on the mat to train and to participate in tournaments.

With any combat sport there is always the risk of a blood injury.

My heartfelt (and I mean heartfelt) response would be to let the boy sharpen his skills, learn the basics - get fit and to participate only after clearing the virus.

Much Love,

Lau


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Gidday Lesley,

I sympathise with the young lad, but having been a former pug I can see how it is going to be difficult to allow him to spar, without endangering his opponents.  Given the very nature of the sport, headgear and mouthguards will not stop bleeding, and the occurence of spray transmission during sparring is highly likely.

Boxing is overseen by medical practitioners whose job at times is to determine the safety issue that arise from time to time in the ring i.e.; concussion, cuts etc;  How he came by the HepC is irrelevant to those whose job it is to determine whether or not he might pass the virus onto others.  As unlikely as it would appear that a couple of 7 year olds all padded up are going to bleed while sparring, the fact that they might, would probably be enough to warrant his exclusion from the sport.

I guess I'm being a devils advocate as it were, because it will always be in the mind of parents of the other kids, that the virus could be transmitted.  To my mind the only way he'd be allowed to box would be if he got treated and no longer was positive to carrying the virus.  That would nullify the other parents fears.

I would be interested to hear how Lau overcomes this, but I understand he's taken up his sport AFTER he was successfully treated by undergoing treatment (tx), and therefore no longer carries the virus.  Sorry I can't be much help, but as long as you are positive to carrying the virus, you can pass the virus onto fellow competitors, and that is all people will see.

Sorry,

Brendan.

P.S.  I know it seems terribly unfair but that is probably how it would go down



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Hi Everyone

Not posted before as I'm new to this forum, but was advised that Laurie might be able to help?

I've been asked whether I can provide any help with a heartbreaking situation.

A young boy (7 years old) who acquired HCV as a consequence of vertical transmission from his mother. He is now being brought up by his auntie. His one passion is boxing. He has joined an amateur boxing gym in the East End which has really brought him out of himself. However he is not being allowed to spar because of his HCV. This is amateur boxing with head guards and body armour so the chances of drawing blood are practically zero. I've tried to find contacts through the Amateur Boxing Association etc but am getting nowhere.

Are there any precedents? Is there anyone who might give a ruling? I know it would make a big difference to this little boy.

Here's hoping.

Lesley

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