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Iris Dragonfly


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Kay, am relived for you and your family, they must be glad to have you home.

I think Isis has some good points, we never know how these injuries may affect one in the future. This has already caused you undue suffering, and has resulted in your having to alter the way you would have rather raised your baby. You are already dealing with fear of re-bleeding, and rightfully so. This is why there is insurance. 

What ever you decide, know that you are in my prayers. Blessings, Iris



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You all are so incredibly kind and supportive. It really means alot to have you guys to share with. I went to the Dr today and they are going to monitor me weekly with bloodwork and appts, for which I am thankful. I cant stop thinking I am going to rebleed and wont know it.

I do want to reiterate that what happened to me is indeed very very rare, unheard of by many of the Drs I have seen so please dont allow this to scare anyone away from biopsies.

Thanks again for the prayers, well wishes and advice.smile



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Hi Kay, so good to hear from you again, we`ve all been so worried, thank goodness you`re home from hospital and back with your family. You`ve been through such a dreadful ordeal and you`re still suffering, but the main thing is you`ve pulled through and you`re now on the road to recovery, surrounded by your loved ones.

I really felt for you when I read about you having to wean your 3 month old boy, being separated from your baby must have been heartbreaking for you. I`m choking up just thinking about it.

Lots of good factual advice from Isiscat (the advantage of having an attorney on the forum!).

All very best wishes to you Kay, we`re all here for you.

Hugs, Jill xxx

Ps - Please thank your husband James for keeping us updated with what was happening, he really is a star. 



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OMG Kay; So glad you pulled through this! I am praying for you hunand a speedy recovery!

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Hi Kay
I am so sorry for the ordeal you have been through. I am sending wishes that you are healing more everyday. I read what happened to you and think of you often. Glad that you are feeling well enough to post. Your doctor sounds like he is trying to make things right--which seems rare for a medical professional. It does seem confusing what to do--
You have my support for whatever you decide.
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Kay!  Soooo glad to hear from you!!! I have been praying for you daily.

My advice around the insurance co.  would be to NOT engage with them at all! He has insurance for a reason and this is it.  We all make mistakes, even really nice people, but your life has ALREADY been changed dramatically and you don't know how this will effect your future.  There are money grubbers in this world but clearly you are not one of them!  You are however, entitled to fair compensation which has not been determined and won't be clear for some time. Give yourself some breathing room to think this through.  The last thing you need are major medical bills on top of this nightmare!!!!  But for now, focus on getting healthy! 



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Kay wrote:

Its been a rough road. The original Dr made a mistake he cut an artery despite using CT imaging for guidance. His insurance company has contacted me to offer me 100 dollars a day I was in hospital except weekends, and they would cover any medical expenses that my insurance wont cover. I consider this weird, like a pretty blatant admission of malpractice, but I dont want to be a lowlife money grubber and just sue this man. I really really like him and understand life is full of problems and we all make mistakes. Really quite confused about what to do.

Hi Kay:  I am so glad you are out of the hospital, and hopefully on the road to recovery now.  I know that people here have been very worried about you.

The insurance company is not admitting liability on behalf of the doctor.  On the contrary, they are attempting to avoid a malpractice finding by offering you a settlement without litigation.  In most states, offers of settlement are inadmissible at trial, so they have nothing to lose by this move and they are hoping to pay you off fast, before you hire an attorney.  That's how it works. 

I'm an attorney, but I am only licensed to practice in Washington.  I cannot advise you as to the laws in your state.   All states have statutes of limitations for med-mal claims, which generally range from 1 year to 3 years.  That means you must file a claim before that time period expires.

This is not personal and I'm sure your doctor can understand that; he made a mistake that injured you and he carries professional liability insurance specifically for that reason--the same way you carry car insurance. Also, the doctor is not calling the shots here.  The insurance company is offering you a settlement because they know they have problems. Either his insurance carrier pays for his mistake or you and your family do.  Not really a difficult choice unless you are independently wealthy and can afford to pay for his mistakes.

The insurance company is offering you next to nothing if indeed the doctor was negligent.  You may be entitled to general (pain and suffering) damages in addition to special (actual monetary losses) damages.  General damages usually far exceed special damages.  And, it is way too early to know how much this will effect you in the future.  It is also much too early to even be considering settlement.

Please contact a medical malpractice atty in your state.  Medical malpractice is a sub specialty of personal injury (tort) law, but not all personal injury lawyers take med-mal cases.  In the meantime, please try not to think about this too much, focus on getting better, and do not communicate with the insurance company.

 

 



-- Edited by Isiscat2011 on Tuesday 6th of March 2012 05:10:52 AM

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Hi Everyone,

 

This is Kay, I went back to the Emergency Room about  10 days ago and sure enough my liver had started to rebleed, they again sent me to another hospital gave me 2 units of blood did another angiogram and I spent some time in ICU. In all about 8 more days in hospital. Im still having fevers every night and am on oxygen full time. They say the fevers are from the trauma and not from an infection. I dont know about that, its weird every night I have fever up to about 102 and then it goes during the day. Here is a blog post with a picture of my liver and the rebleed, http://lovinhuggin.blogspot.com/2012/02/hopspitol-update.html  it actually formed a huge hematoma on my liver, they had considered draining in fact had me prepped to do so then at the last minute changed their minds.

 

Its been a rough road. The original Dr made a mistake he cut an artery despite using CT imaging for guidance. His insurance company has contacted me to offer me 100 dollars a day I was in hospital except weekends, and they would cover any medical expenses that my insurance wont cover. I consider this weird, like a pretty blatant admission of malpractice, but I dont want to be a lowlife money grubber and just sue this man. I really really like him and understand life is full of problems and we all make mistakes. Really quite confused about what to do.

I dont kinow how this will affect my liver long term, if it may compromise it further, will there be more re-bleeds?

I can say I have suffered greatly. I guess the worst being having to wean my 3 month old and not being able to care for him....breaks my heart!!yawn



-- Edited by Kay on Monday 5th of March 2012 08:41:58 PM

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That sounds very scary im from england and ive had two seperate liver biopsys the most recent one the chap took the first sample and said it was no good to use so he did another sample straight away.But over here they only take one sliver/section for a sample they dont take three,i suppose they study the section under the scope in small pieces.Im praying for you for a speedy recovery and my best wishes for you and the family.Col135.

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James?... are you out there? am worried for Kay,...how did the procedure go? Are you guys home yet? We are here for you, ...just letting you know I am understanding of the fear, and unknown that faces you. Do let Kay know we are thinking of her. Strength be yours. Blessings, Iris



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Hi Kay, Sorry to hear about your biopsy problem and the resulting problems.  I hope you make a speedy recovery and feel better soon.  I had a biopsy once, and it went ok, but I doubt I will ever have one again. 



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Dear Lord, dear Lady,..powers that are greater than us...please surround this family with abundant white light and healing,...please bring wellness to Kay, God speed. Her children need her. Her husband needs her, all of her loved ones need her. pray.gif

James, know that all of us here are pulling and praying and wishing your family a positive outcome. Bright Blessings and lots of Love, Iris



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  You are all in my thoughts and prayers...sending much love,

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Oh James, my heart goes out to you and Kay.

I`m hoping and praying that she will come through this.

Hugs, Jill xxx



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Hi James,

She is in our hearts and prayers.

Greg and Cate.



-- Edited by Greg on Monday 27th of February 2012 04:50:20 AM

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Just a update on my wife im posting on her acct. She started bleeding again now has a large capsule of blood half the size of her liver. The last couple of days have been very scary ones. She was having severe pain again so we went and got another cat scan and they found a much larger internal bleed than from the first one. All from a liver biopsy. The bleeding has stopped but they could not find where it was coming from. She is in icu Please pray for her. Doctors are stumped. They told us having surgery to find the bleed will not have a good outcome and could cost her life. Please remeber her over the next few days.

James



-- Edited by Kay on Monday 27th of February 2012 03:56:29 AM

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Wow!  So sorry for your experience!  Goes to show those biopsies are not to be taken as lightly as some of us might want to.

Great news on your biopsy results--shows you've got time to heal and consider your options.

You are in my thoughts, along weith all those babies!  They must be so happy Mummy is back with them!



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Oh Kay, this is just horrendous.  When they tell you this stuff almost never happens and then it happens to you the "almost never happens" crap just flies right out the window along with your trust.

Get well soon dear heart.

Hey, I do like your good news!   smile



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wishing you full breaths ASAPbiggrin



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B161,

 

Havent read why you stopped treatmnet but I hope that you can somehow recover from this virus and yes its tough not being able to take a full breath, sorry your going through that.

 

BTW, you have a lovely profile picture.smile



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Thank you for the concern Connie, yes the lung was from the biopsy. I couldnt take full breaths on that side because of the pain and blood so I had a partial lower lung collapse. There is a long word for it that I can pronounce but yes....and Im still struggling with my breathing. Hurts to breathe.



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Dear Kay, I have worried for you after reading about the biopsy disaster. Goodness you had quite a scare. Was the lung collapse because of the surgery? or the biopsy? Well,  the biopsy results look pretty good, that must be a relief.  Have you decided what you will do next?   Blessings, Iris



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60 years on planet, Female, diagnosed 1978 as non-a non-b, VL 8mill+, Fibro f-1f-2, Genotype 1a, treatment naďve....UNTIL 7-01-18  !!!! started Harvoni 12 weeks. :)

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OMG, your biopsyreally went wrong! So glad to hear you stuck to your guns & wouldn't go home! Who knows our bodies better than us? Wishing you a speedy recovery. I just had to to stop treatment on Monday & am still short of breath so I can relate.

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*Caution Disclaimer* If you are anxious or easily influenced by bad reports or afraid of biopsy you may wanna skip this one. nono
 
I went in everything seemed to go well during the procedure the Dr took 3 samples as is standard and then I went to a room to recover and wait a couple hours...all was well. UNTIL suddenly I started feeling the most excruciating pain I have ever felt in my life. I have had 3 kids at home with no meds and this far exceeded that pain. I was coming off the bed out of my gown begging the Dr to not leave me acting like a crazy woman. They offered me a pain pill! Are you kidding? They wheeled me back in for a cat scan no apparent issues nothing...I passed out, literally. Started going numb from the fingers inward. Drs tried to send me home. I refused. Drs finally admitted me with great puzzlement and heavy drugs. Next day Dr came in and ordered yet another cat. It showed internal bleeding. The Biopsy Dr had cut an artery. Rushed to ICU. My Hemoglobin went from 14 to 8 in hours so taken by ambulance to different hospital given blood transfusions and finally an angiogram to plug the artery. More days in ICU then a partial lung collapse, bad nurses, missing my babies, SEVERE EXCRUTIATING pain, 11 days later Im home on oxygen. Cant take a full breath. Going to be a long hard recovery while I heal.
 
Good news............Im stage 1 to 2 according to the biopsy.


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Oh Kay, we were all so worried about you when your husband posted what had happened, and now to read the details of what you went through...it is absolutely horrific and must have been very very scary, especially when they tried to send you home! What?!! It`s difficult to even imagine that degree of pain.  hmm

I have asthma and ended up in hospital a few years ago when I had a bad attack, so I understand what it feels like when you can`t get your breath.

Wishing you a good and speedy recovery Kay, you are back with your precious family now and I`m sure they will take good care of you as you heal.

Good news from the biopsy result anyway! smile

Take care, and keep in touch.

Hugs, Jill xxx

Ps - And thanks for the disclaimer! aww What you went through was very rare and should never have happened, and I`m just so sorry it happened to you.



 



-- Edited by Cinnamon Girl on Thursday 16th of February 2012 12:01:42 PM

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