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Welcome Joesph

the others have answered your questions but I wanted to welcome you to the forum. Its great that your wife will be getting treatment, I cant tell you how much better my life is without hcv, I hope you can get treatment soon also.

It seems that the most important thing to make treatment a bit easier...(avoiding the headaches,etc) is to drink a LOT of water.

As Canuck said VLs can fluctuate vastly...i was at 5 million then 3 million then a few years later just before I started treatment I was under 1 million.

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Hi Joseph,

Welcome to the forum! Im glad youre here, too. I hope we can answer some of your questions. If we have anything here, its a lot of knowledgeable opinions laced with brilliance, lol!

The risk of her viral load impacting yours is non existent. The risk of infection would come if you had a cut or abrasion and shared blood between you. I have to add, the possibility while true, is extremely rare. I personally have never heard from anyone that had this occur. The recommendation, if you are concerned, is to avoid intercourse or wrap things up during her menstrual period. Simple, right? I wouldnt be concerned.

Stay in touch and let us know how all of this progresses. We are here to help and will do our best to inform and educate. If you have any questions, ask away!

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Hi Joseph,

Welcome here. I'm sure glad you found us and came here. Right place for some info, opinions, and just some companionship as we here can relate well to most of what you and your wife are going through.

You ask good questions!smileAnd good you are confirming things for us, makes it easier for discussions.

One of the first questions from us has often been clarifying whether new people coming here actually have chronic hep c, or, whether they merely carry the hepc antibody (evidence of having been exposed to the virus at some time in the past) - but you have already confirmed that well for us, by explaining with history that your wife was "diagnosed" 15 years ago, and, you about 2 years ago, and that both of you do carry a viral load (VL).

So nice that your wife will soon be seen to try to get her treatment underway, and that you will be next - I hope you both have any easy time to get access to the drugs you need. It IS getting easier these days to get to treatment and, nowadays, we have the best drugs we have ever been SO lucky to know! There are some really excellent drugs that have come to the market now. Excellent cure rates and few sides! There are new direct-acting-antiviral (DAA) drug treatment choices for both of you, that will be really quite easy to take - do not be afraid of sides, if you experience anything like a side (headache is one that can be possibly reported as common), they are generally not severe at all and can be managed and minimized very well. Fear and stress can sometimes be the worse things we might experience while on treatment, and not "sides" - so, you are doing the right thing to inform yourselves about what to expect, that will help her and you to be feeling confident and less fearful entering treatment. Approaching treatment is still a stressful time for most of us, fear of the unknowns, unfamiliarity, etc., those alone are enough to stress us out - nice you show such concern for your wife, and for her as she gets ready to start her therapy - you will be of great support to her, and that always helps. Know too, that we will also offer whatever we can in way of help as well.

Funny thing that (VL's), I did not know much of anything about viral loads until quite late into approaching treatment. I just had never heard/thought about how VL's could rise and fall and fluctuate (all on their own) according to how our bodies were battling and dealing with the chronic infection we were having (over time). I had no idea, had never really entertained the thought, that VL's could do this, and fluctuate quite widely in a person. I had a 10+ million VL, which, on a subsequent test showed up very low in the 300,000+ range (if memory serves me correctly) and nothing to do with treatment, just what my load was doing at that time. The viral load measurement is but a pinprick moment in time, replication rates of the virus can be amazingly quick and great, and, VL can also drop downward on their own, it is possible to fluctuate in both directions, from one VL test to another VL test. For others, it seems they do not fluctuate so much! go figure!

VL (whether it be high or low) is not really quite so important nowadays, with a few exceptions, if over 6 million, that may have a bearing on how long or what drugs are chosen for you. If you had a very high VL you are (just by virtue of owning more virus to offer) then possibly (technically) you could be more infective than a person is who has a low VL (just by sheer numbers of virus). The bottom line is not sharing blood to blood contact, not likely we would be offering up our blood for tranfusions, and the like, anyway!

It would be rare to acquire hep c from your wife's menstrual blood, you would have had to have a cut or bloody opening on you, you have to share "blood to blood" contact with another person. Rarer still, to acquire a second bout of a new hep c on top of a hep c you currently have. I guess scientifically it is within the realm of possibility, but rare as hens teeth! (to possess 2 bouts of hepc at the same time, or acquire it from menstrual blood). Same goes for normal familial contact, mothers to babies, husbands/wives, family contacts, friends - rare incidences and kind of in that order of risk too, and there has to be an exchange of blood from one to another. Still any person who has chronic hep c must take precautions to minimize putting another person at risk of blood to blood contact, just in case. Keeping (possibly bloodied) toothbrushes/razors/objects, to yourself, for yourself, not sharing needles etc., as a preventative caution. You could avoid intercourse during menses, or wear protection, but like I say it takes two to tango, you would have to possess a open sore or cut or opening that would allow blood to enter your wound and body to allow a chance of infection. If it makes you both feel more certain, you could avoid sex during menses or use protection. I suppose ... as rare as it would be, if a person ever acquired a second (mixed) GT, then that person's "mixed GT" VL would be fluctuating perhaps up or down, just like anybody else's VL might fluctuate up or down who possesses just one GT.

What gentotype (GT) is your wife and what GT are you, and how high or low are both your VL's? Like I say, it is very rare for one person to own a 2 different GT's at the same time. GT1's are prevalent in the U.S, if you both have the same GT, all you may ever know is that you both picked up a common GT, not where when or who you might have got it from.

Many people NEVER get it figured out, for certain, when where or why they got hepc (just like you were outlining).

Tig and the others will be along shortly to meet you.

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Please do keep firing away if you have questions, or just want to talk.smile



-- Edited by Canuck on Friday 8th of December 2017 04:08:22 AM

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Hello everyone Im new to this kind of thing but thought i would give it a try guess will start by giving a little background my wife and I are both hep C positive she has known about hers for about 15 years or so and when we first met and got together in 2013 she was straight out and honost with me and told me about it I didnt care about it wasnt goin to let it be a problem now I was diagnosed within the past 1 1/2 to 2 years not goin to try to do like some and make excuses or try to place blame anywhere I honostly dont think it came from her we both have done high risk things unprofesional tattoos mine from prison and both did drugs in past. thang is she has finaly got an appointment with specialist on 12-19-17 hope all goes well i have done two blood test for type and viral count n liver inzyms on my second test my viral count was lower but liver inzyms was up i havent made appointment yet cause i havent got insurance yet and its to expensive to add me to my wifes but will have it soon and will be makin appointment for myself. I do have a question though if me and my wife was to have intercourse while she is on her period could her higher viral load make mine go up??? I have tried to look online but caint find anythang and wont lie feel wierd for asking bout it but wanted to see if anyone might know and wanted to join this group because my wife is goin to hopefully get to start treatment soon and thought it to be good to be in contact with others who have gone through and are goin through same thang and can relate first hand with what we will both go through with her treatment then mine will treatment cause her to be ill will it make her more tired than she always is now how exactly will treatment affect her im excited and happy for her to hopfully get the treatment but im scared to cause dont want her to hurt more than she already does dont want her to be sicker than she already is it kills me to see her on her bad days cause theres nothin i can do to make it better to take it all away sorry i kinda started ramblin im just scared and worried as im sure others have been to well guess i will end this and continue my search on info of what to expect throughout process i thank you all for any info you can give to help

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