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Thanks for Bday wish and advice. My first question about the antidepressants was if anyone knew of one that was really safe for use with Hep c and liver damage. I had read cymbalta was the worse. My drs are going to work this out, I am going over to psych office in a few hrs and sign release form , so he can have results of my lab  tests from GI. I used Prozac for a long time before Dx, then stopped. Had a RX for either effexor or Lexapro ,but tossed it because I was afraid to hurt my liver. Thanks again , Michaele

 You right sorry  Rule #1 you always got to pass the decision by the doctor Treating Your Liver the ones I mentioned are being given to Hep c  people w/ chirrosis etc   so go to rule  #1 everone's condition is different 

Try to do to the  ( professional or psyciatrist you will use )  Get them to speak with the liver doc and try to get you liver doctor write the script  so he approves what your getting  This go's for any suggested drug I only mentioned the ones I know about OK?

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 Mizz M , Happy B daycake.gif.. just bear in mind take your list voice your concerns ..ask away at the Doc's office..  try to have them all work together for your behalf... if you had a medications that did work for you.. discuss this as well.  We're all in this fight together but we are all different when it comes to how our body handles " stuff"  hopefully you will get some good medical attention to help you make better informed decisions on meds and the next step of this journey

Honor among dragon Slayers as those soon to be MJ



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smile Hi , thanks for Bday wish,  and advice to get all the ducks in a row about meds. Im making a list of all the personal care needs for side effects.  Im concerned about doing alot of antihistamines, and N/V meds. Pheragan is an antihistamine, so maybe it will have a doulbe use. I have a Rx for xanax, in fact I have three, I never use it, it expires because I forget it, refuse to take it, or dont like the hang over even  0.125mg gives me. I only take 1/4 a perocet with 12.5 phenergan for pain. The only thing I pop is chewable childrens asprin, cant tell the anxiety from heart attack, mirgraine from a stroke. LOL As you can see I dont take alot of meds. Have a Good Life Michaele



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 Hey, I understand, and I was asking to hear different persons experiences, not just an answer to one question . But with all the stuff out there I am miffed. I was stage 3 on biopsy, then 2 wks later I had a CT that noted change in portal vein, now GI is saying portal hypertension, getting upper GI 9/18. Can things go down hill that fast?  Portal hyper is stage 4. Ive been infected sine 1971; if my guess is right. Personally, I feel darn good most of the time, maybe it the manic in me . LOL  Heres hope  Michaele



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Michaele wrote:

Thanks for Bday wish and advice. My first question about the antidepressants was if anyone knew of one that was really safe for use with Hep c and liver damage. I had read cymbalta was the worse. My drs are going to work this out, I am going over to psych office in a few hrs and sign release form , so he can have results of my lab  tests from GI. I used Prozac for a long time before Dx, then stopped. Had a RX for either effexor or Lexapro ,but tossed it because I was afraid to hurt my liver. Thanks again , Michaele

 You right sorry  Rule #1 you always got to pass the decision by the doctor Treating Your Liver the ones I mentioned are being given to Hep c  people w/ chirrosis etc   so go to rule  #1 everone's condition is different 

Try to do to the  ( professional or psyciatrist you will use )  Get them to speak with the liver doc and try to get you liver doctor write the script  so he approves what your getting  This go's for any suggested drug I only mentioned the ones I know about OK?

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Thank you ,again hope your doing well, too.



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I understand, Michaele, and the more info you can get the better.  Keep asking questions!   Best of luck with getting all this pre-tx stuff sorted out.  smile  Jill xx



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Didnt have Hep C and stage 3 then, back in the 60s



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Thanks for Bday wish and advice. My first question about the antidepressants was if anyone knew of one that was really safe for use with Hep c and liver damage. I had read cymbalta was the worse. My drs are going to work this out, I am going over to psych office in a few hrs and sign release form , so he can have results of my lab  tests from GI. I used Prozac for a long time before Dx, then stopped. Had a RX for either effexor or Lexapro ,but tossed it because I was afraid to hurt my liver. Thanks again , Michaele



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Bills wrote:
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  careful you might get stuck in sixties

 

 Good Lord you wouldn't want that to happen



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Hi Michaele, in your case I think it would really be best to ask your doctor what he recommends.  Anti-depressants can be very helpful indeed while on tx but they can affect people differently, what works for some may not suit others.

I`ve just noticed that it`s a special day for you, so a big "Happy Birthday" to you!!  Hope you`ve having a good one!  cake.gif

All the best to you, Jill xx

ps - I`ve moved this thread to General Discussion



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Hi, from what I know wellbutrin isnt good if you have an eating disorder. I never tried it. Its used to help stop smoking. Good luck with all of this. Michaele



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Michaele wrote:

Hi, thanks for quick reply. I read cymbalta was  the one most toxic. I never tried it, Prozac worked way back, but it a dinosaur now. 2 of my children where on lexapro in the past. We have the depression gene . I suppose I'd opt for the Lexapro, The GI and psych will get together in next wk to hash it over. Thanks again Michelel

 I have heard lexapro seems to help alot of folks when the others don't ..good luck peace and love MJ



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These treatment drugs cause depression and can be really bad depression Bupropion is generic for Welllbutrin for me 300mg (XL= extended release ) I have clinical depression untreated for many years of adult life on and off for about 6 yrs now I don't feel anything when I take anti-depressants but when you stop short Bamm depression hits like brick wall I wasn't sure if it was working till I stopped Its also very dangerous health wise to stop short convolutions and more also DON'T ever break an Extended Release ( XL) pill you will feel that and it isnt good i found that out too
I tried Lexapro is about the same so your choice adding Cymbalta helped with my leg pain ( a-little ) did not work enough for me and I wondered if it added depression so I dropped it ( not everybody gets that some rave about that combo ) The combo Wellbutrin w/ Cymbalta is very common
Good luck happy days



-- Edited by Bills on Tuesday 4th of September 2012 05:10:54 PM

 yep we're all differnt that's for sure I tried about 7 of those SSI drugs for anxiety... VERY important to remember you " just" don't stop  those meds .. you have to decrese or wean yourself...can have crazy side effects if you just quit taking, even when I did that I had veritgo etc... peace and love MJ



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Its ironic that when I was young I would take almost any kind of pill if my friends did it and assured me it wasnt bad   

But here I am telling people the dangers and condemning the legal that we are taking  I cant really figure that out

Anyway another 60s MTV member this ????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug2EcWkb26I&feature=fvst

 

 dude that was before MTV... Jefferson Starship and Grace Slick.. yeah I've gone and asked Alice....awesome tune.. those were the daze my friend...



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Its ironic that when I was young I would take almost any kind of pill if my friends did it and assured me it wasnt bad   

But here I am telling people the dangers and condemning the legal that we are taking  I cant really figure that out

Anyway another 60s MTV member this ????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug2EcWkb26I&feature=fvst

 



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Hi , Ive heard all good things about Effexor. Appt on monday with psych , wonder if they will give me a choice or do the, " this or nada speach?" Thanks for response   Michaele



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Hi, thanks for quick reply. I read cymbalta was  the one most toxic. I never tried it, Prozac worked way back, but it a dinosaur now. 2 of my children where on lexapro in the past. We have the depression gene . I suppose I'd opt for the Lexapro, The GI and psych will get together in next wk to hash it over. Thanks again Michelel



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Cymbalta was great for me or Lexapro. They are mild drugs however, if you have a history of any disorders you should ask your doctor what's best for you and try a few because they do effect everyone differently.

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For me, Effexor XR was/is the drug which has worked the best. I tried a few and none leveled things out quite like this one.



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cry Hi all, I need to start antidepressants before starting Tx. Being Bipolar I just ride the wave up and down and have learned how to use the wave. Get house work and gardening done while manic,  bake like the dough boy, get the picture . When Im depressed I sit in front of TV or PC in the same duds ; all teary eyed . Does anyone really know if there is a safe antidepressant for us. I see a therapist Q 2 wks. Ive passed on the pills  since Dx in 2004.  All suggestions welcome.  Michaele



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Bills wrote:
Mary Jane wrote:
Bills wrote:

 

Its ironic that when I was young I would take almost any kind of pill if my friends did it and assured me it wasnt bad   

But here I am telling people the dangers and condemning the legal that we are taking  I cant really figure that out

Anyway another 60s MTV member this ????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug2EcWkb26I&feature=fvst

 

 dude that was before MTV... Jefferson Starship and Grace Slick.. yeah I've gone and asked Alice....awesome tune.. those were the daze my friend...

Good advice about anti depressants MJ & Cinnamon  Happy Birth day Michaele

I Know  the music recording is bad   but this a a famous moment in history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EdLasOrG6c&feature=related

If you need to hear it studio version you can find it off to the right  scroll that anyway  careful you might get stuck in sixties

 



-- Edited by Bills on Tuesday 4th of September 2012 06:22:00 PM



-- Edited by Bills on Tuesday 4th of September 2012 06:24:09 PM

 Woodstock , me was a tad to young to have gone but  was very aware of the whole movement I was         11 yrs old.. a very powerful time... 60's I'd do it ... time capsule anyone, or we could jingle " Dr. Who and use his TARDIS... man that would be groovy.. peace and love MJ



-- Edited by Mary Jane on Tuesday 4th of September 2012 09:16:00 PM

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Hi Michaele,

Everything we eat and drink has to be processed by the liver and some meds/substances are more difficult to process than others. When you have impaired liver function it can mean that the liver is not as efficient at removing toxins as a healthy liver. It's a balancing act, taking into account the benefits and possible harm when taking medication.

As Bills has suggested, make sure you air your concerns and that the psychiatrist and liver doc are communicating with each other and that way you should get the best possible meds that will be tailored to suit you.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! smile

Steff xx



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Mary Jane wrote:
Bills wrote:

 

Its ironic that when I was young I would take almost any kind of pill if my friends did it and assured me it wasnt bad   

But here I am telling people the dangers and condemning the legal that we are taking  I cant really figure that out

Anyway another 60s MTV member this ????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug2EcWkb26I&feature=fvst

 

 dude that was before MTV... Jefferson Starship and Grace Slick.. yeah I've gone and asked Alice....awesome tune.. those were the daze my friend...

Good advice about anti depressants MJ & Cinnamon  Happy Birth day Michaele

I Know  the music recording is bad   but this a a famous moment in history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EdLasOrG6c&feature=related

If you need to hear it studio version you can find it off to the right  scroll that anyway  careful you might get stuck in sixties

 



-- Edited by Bills on Tuesday 4th of September 2012 06:22:00 PM



-- Edited by Bills on Tuesday 4th of September 2012 06:24:09 PM

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These treatment drugs cause depression and can be really bad depression Bupropion is generic for Welllbutrin for me 300mg (XL= extended release ) I have clinical depression untreated for many years of adult life on and off for about 6 yrs now I don't feel anything when I take anti-depressants but when you stop short Bamm depression hits like brick wall I wasn't sure if it was working till I stopped Its also very dangerous health wise to stop short convolutions and more also DON'T ever break an Extended Release ( XL) pill you will feel that and it isnt good i found that out too
I tried Lexapro is about the same so your choice adding Cymbalta helped with my leg pain ( a-little ) did not work enough for me and I wondered if it added depression so I dropped it ( not everybody gets that some rave about that combo ) The combo Wellbutrin w/ Cymbalta is very common
Good luck happy days



-- Edited by Bills on Tuesday 4th of September 2012 05:10:54 PM

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