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Plus if someone has hep b that used the needle before you, no hope for you even at your age.  Do you want to be a loser? Make a choice, its yours to make then you get to live with it.



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I agree,  face reality or suck up more failure, i used to do that. Go on out and quit wasting time and money or get real and get well...thats what I would say to my child...



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I agree but why not get this over with, they should have had you sign something legally binding for testing you before tx. Why should your insurance company pay, so many wish their coverage would, they would do anything. You sound exactly like someone who should not be on tx. That may sound harsh but hey thats the way it was put to me by hospital and my doctors. 



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Trudge

If your using during treatment  with these highly potent HCV meds the problem is much worse than a little anxiety or I'll never do it again. I know you're young but damn. Check into rehab and take it seriously. Otherwise stop your meds and party on but don't do both.



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Hello Trudge and welcome,

Wise words from Duane and others there (thanks).  You came to us for advice and please feel welcome here any time, we`re all on your side and want you to live a long and happy virus-free life.  Yes, you made a mistake and of course you know that already, and many of us on this forum are only here because of stupid mistakes and bad choices we made when we were young...and I include myself in that...so we speak from experience.

You may or may not have been reinfected and as Malcolm said, the best thing to do is to get a viral load and genotype test done and time will tell.

Wishing you all the best of luck with the rest of your treatment and beyond, you`ve responded well so far and I hope everything works out well for you.  smile  ~ Jill

 



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Trudge everyone makes mistakes, and that is what life is, a series of them that in time create a library in your mind of what not to do, which in the later years becomes known as wisdom.

I have kids your age and older that really makes and me think of your situation..and my conclusion is this, Mary is correct... the world most certainly is a better place with you in it and you should believe that too.

Nobody here really knows how or why you got to the place you are today, and that's not important, I'm proud of you for having the courage to seek advice NOW even knowing that some would be insensitive and take shots at a kid that stumbled picked himself up and sought advice.

Thank you Malcom for responding to trudge just like a Dr...... Factually without judgement, I wonder how many are here because of those same weaknesses that trudge had, but now they are wise because it took many years to realize the consequences.

Trudge you are very young yet ....you will overcome this, do not dwell on this error, be strong, seek support from those that really care about you, and if your inclined to as I often am....pray! It does wonders.

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Hey Trudge

WOW ! Sometimes we have to learn about ourselves the hard way.

Lesson for you and all of us is  "is do not be misled, bad associations spoil useful habits"

You still can change, just do it.

matt 



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agree with deedee.. do not allow these ppl around u. they don't respect u by bringing that situation to u in the first place. this is a not a friend.. distance urself from them. quick. don't mess up the meds & ur life.. smile



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Well, it is certainly not the brightest move you've made.  Your roommates father is certainly a piece of work.  Using and sharing drugs with someone who is young enough to be your child and on treatment---What can you expect ??? He is a practicing junkie.  Get away from that situation immediately.  It is far too easy to slip back into addiction.  It is not the connection that leads us back into addiction.  It is generally family and old friends--sharing their "medicine" with you.  And you are/were a recovering junkie. 

Get back in touch with whoever helped you get clean and find another place to live.  The temptation is obviously too strong for you where you are. Your roommates father will be back with his drugs.

as for the Hep c--you will just have to finish your treatment and keep checking to see if you got re-infected. I do wish you the best.  Life after treatment is good, but life without drugs is fantastic, but it ain't always easy.

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-- Edited by suziq on Tuesday 3rd of June 2014 02:52:50 AM

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Sorry, Trudge.  Huey and I are just having a bit of fun but not at your expense.  We all wish you the best.

 Yes Indeed Best wishes.  No harm intended.



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Trudge.. It's water under the bridge now ..nothing you can do about it... BUT you need to have more Will power if that kind of situation comes up. Love yourself and walk away.. It's not worth dying for ...disbelief

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Sorry, Trudge.  Huey and I are just having a bit of fun but not at your expense.  We all wish you the best.



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Huey wrote:

I was thinking USA  Post office is Federal and breaking a window is destruction of Federal Prop.  Non the less I was not being entirely serious at the time.  But rehab is a good idea.

 

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Maybe we could get him to rob a bank, (so he is facing some serious time) but instead of getting arrested right away he would take off with the money, and stash it with a friend.  Then, he could turn himself in and his friend could arrange for a rehab program, which the judge could release him into.  But he'd still have the potential interruption of tx.  We will have to work on this plan a bit more.  smile

Rehab sounds like a great idea.



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ok Trudge what you need to do is get yourself into rehab, you can put your meds into your pocket, go down to the post office and throw a brick through the window. when the judge ask just say guilty and your away from the drugs for a good long time, and they will give you your meds,, sound like a plan/?

I doubt it would play out that way.  Getting arrested would probably just interrupt his tx and compromise his chances of SVR even more.  The jail isn't going to allow him to bring the drugs in with him and it could take some time for the jail officials to sort it out.  Also, unless he has 5 weeks worth of Rx with him, how is he going to get refills in lock up?  These aren't run of the mill meds.  

For all we know the judge would PR him in a couple of days.  Throwing a brick through a window is not exactly the crime of the century and jails need the beds.  I don't know about Canada but getting into rehab in the states can be tough and it takes time (unless you have plenty of dough).  Sounds like a pretty iffy proposition to me.

Nah.....I'm not liking this plan too much at all, Huey.  Nice thought, though.  smile

 

I was thinking USA  Post office is Federal and breaking a window is destruction of Federal Prop.  Non the less I was not being entirely serious at the time.  But rehab is a good idea.

 



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ok Trudge what you need to do is get yourself into rehab, you can put your meds into your pocket, go down to the post office and throw a brick through the window. when the judge ask just say guilty and your away from the drugs for a good long time, and they will give you your meds,, sound like a plan/?

I doubt it would play out that way.  Getting arrested would probably just interrupt his tx and compromise his chances of SVR even more.  The jail isn't going to allow him to bring the drugs in with him and it could take some time for the jail officials to sort it out.  Also, unless he has 5 weeks worth of Rx with him, how is he going to get refills in lock up?  These aren't run of the mill meds.  

For all we know the judge would PR him in a couple of days.  Throwing a brick through a window is not exactly the crime of the century and jails need the beds.  I don't know about Canada but getting into rehab in the states can be tough and it takes time (unless you have plenty of dough).  Sounds like a pretty iffy proposition to me.

Nah.....I'm not liking this plan too much at all, Huey.  Nice thought, though.  smile



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ok Trudge what you need to do is get yourself into rehab, you can put your meds into your pocket, go down to the post office and throw a brick through the window. when the judge ask just say guilty and your away from the drugs for a good long time, and they will give you your meds,, sound like a plan/?

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I know you didn't come here for a lecture but by what you've said you've made it obvious you need more help than what you asked for. Many people here have been where you are so they're going to talk straight to you and hope it helps. Now it's my turn...

You must get away, and stay away, from people who do this stuff. If that means cutting ties to all your friends then so be it. You'll make new friends that aren't killing themselves and you. There is nothing wrong with telling a junky to get the #$@ out of your house as soon as you find out. Your life is more important than being polite. You can't afford not to be a nazi about this kind of thing. I speak from experience. I got away from these people when I was 16 and never looked back. All the comments like "dude you suck" were answered with my middle finger. Had I not left those people behind there is no way I'd be alive today. Unfortunately my stupid behavior before I smartened up had consequences I'm still living with over 25 years later. I hope you're able to do the same before it's too late. If not HCV is only one of *many* problems you will have.

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Dude!!!!

I'm not gonna hold your hand and tell you "ok so you sliped" nope. You were stupid and a little weak. Your 22 man up. When I was 22 I probably would have used that needle also. I've been where you are and I can tell you that you can't escape the bad choices you make you can't escape your past in life. That anxiety thing was an excuse you just wanted a taste and it was there. I'm not gonna be easy on you. You should have walked out the door until he was done. You know your on treatment if for some reason they look at your blood work and find drugs they will pull you off treatment. Why should they help you if you won't help your self. No excuse I've been there.

Time to get smart Dude!



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I won't coddle you either.  I know people that died at ther own hands., suicide, drug ods, killed by druggies they knew.....died in fires because they were too high to get out.....I could go on and on about the life style you're in but I will say one thing.

the world is a better place with you in it.  The world is a better place with you in it.  don't put your **** on your family.  Don't put this **** on any children you might have in this life.  Every one has a gift.....I'm positive yu have one too....you might not see it right now...but you do...make music with your life....make art with your life.....spread joy with your life...share love with everyone in your life.

the world is a better place with you in it.



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I feel impelled to warn you off your possible future if you do not make some changes very fast.

My sister died at the age of 42 even after coming clean from drugs, giving life a new chance. Why, because a heart valve became infected and damage occurred due to drug abuse, it was never found and she died in hospital. Do you really think that how you are choosing to live is really the way forward? I know I should be giving you sympathy for a stupid mistake, but actually I feel angry at you.  You are 22 years of age, you have not even lived yet and you were given a chance to start afresh. Now you are faced with the possibility you are re-infected and used whilst on treatment, wake up and stop thinking you are invincible!

I hope that you were lucky and this time you got off with just worry and the needle you used was clean, but please, stop kidding about with your life, stay away from people that brings you into temptation! I have seen first hand the devastation drugs can bring, start loving yourself!

I know you are beating yourself up now, but you need to start taking this seriously, you will cause severe liver damage using with Hep C, you know the risks, and believe me its not worth it. Do you want to die young over a high that lasts a few hours? My sister regretted every moment and still died because it was too late!

Rant over, be safe, look after your liver and get healthy whilst you have the chance.

 

 

 

 



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I just read it can take 6 months before it might show up in the blood.  So, it is possible you could still be UND but carrying the virus, and as Mallani noted, it could even be a different genotype.  Not good news.  Sorry.



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I presume you're on Peginterferon and Ribavirin. You may be infected with a new Genotype.

Get your VL checked, with a new Genotype test.



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I just asked him, what he thought and he said chances of infecting yourself from that is so low. i hope thats the case,  I will not do again, and i only did it the one time,  could anyone with infromation help with advice" and if i did reinfect myself? wouldnt the medication that im already on fight it from the very beginning ?

If you only have 5 weeks left, and you were UND then became reinfected, you would be starting over with only a 5 week tx course.  Your VL would presumably be lower to start with the 2nd time but 5 weeks is not very long for any tx (and we don't even know what tx you are on).  Your odds of SVR would be decreased, perhaps substantially.  

It usually takes a week or two before the virus would show up in your blood tests.

There is simply no way to predict the effect this will have.  Hang in there and hope for the best.  

P.S.  I would ask doc for a VL check in 2-3 weeks.  If the worst happens perhaps he/she can find a way to extend your tx.



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I just asked him, what he thought and he said chances of infecting yourself from that is so low. i hope thats the case,  I will not do again, and i only did it the one time,  could anyone with infromation help with advice" and if i did reinfect myself? wouldnt the medication that im already on fight it from the very beginning ?



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what do you guys thinkÉÉ 

I think it is possible that you have reinfected yourself.  I sure hope that isn't the case.  Only time and blood work will tell.

I don't believe in kicking someone who is down, and I'm sure you are pretty down right now, so I'll save the indignation and just tell you like it is.  

You must get clean or you are going to die anyway.  Your life is a gift to you and to the people you will one day help; don't throw it away. Keep fighting.  



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Ok, so this is complicated but, I am in week 19 treatment for hep c genotype 3.  The third blood results came back negative, still have the 5 more weeks to go.  Last week my roommates father moved here from nova scotia, and i had no idea he was a junky, one night i had extreme anxiety and he was using infront of me nd i did with him.  All the syringes were new, but i think he mixed them and used the same bowl.  he is hep c positive (and not getting treatment) only did 4 hits that night, but still makes me worrried.  what do you guys thinkÉÉ :( im 22 and so disapointed in myself, was former university student till all this bad stuff started happning



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