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Whoa! Love that dog!  

My heart feels warm and fuzzy.   That's some love, alright.



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tig, thankyou so much for that story. wow, the big fluffy dog lived and protected  the property. that is a heart warming miracle story.

def an answer to prayer and hope.

now get ye to the emergencee with that bad upper respiratory going on. i'm on the mend slowly and hope it's almost over for me.



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I read an article last night about a homeowner that lost everything early in the fire, including their big fluffy family dog. They were unable to return to their home before the fire destroyed it and that meant their pet was on his own, too. They were just allowed back on their property and to their amazement, the dog was there, weeks later, protecting the property that was once his home. They were all happily reunited. That’s what I call a prayer answered! 



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last i chked it was below 2000., i know some ppl made larger donations but i try to do it weekly.

it all adds up



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Hey 5,

Generous of you to do that extra and ongoing pulling for Ziggy's fund. Very nice of you - I know her plight for many of us is pulling at our heartstrings, so, those of us who can share, share what we can. Good to see the fund-me page goal has reached $2000 out of $3000, likely your donations have helped very much. ; )



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c, hubs bought the tiramasu cake, i wasnt even sure what the ingredients were, but thot it was coffee or cinnamon

i wouldn't be making anything that complicated.

your labs sound good, i'll get more next year.

i have soft kleenex and i am still blowing cry, at this point its hard to tell if that's good or bad , it could be my sinus draining or the beginning of more days of blowing... i'm praying for relief by thurs nite as i do have to work. i've been in bed for 2 days, so at least i've got some rest.

my holiday work schedule is too many work days due to events and others needing time off. i figured i could volunteer to help, didn't know i'd get sick.

but i can go in and they will let me go home if i feel too bad. i'm hoping it isn't awful. it's a yearly thing with all of us getting sick and passing it down the line.

i will go see the dr on my next days off and get the antibios if i can't get well.

ok, back to watching the old 'sabrina the teenage witch', it's great to be able to stream this from hulu



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5,

I forgot to tell you that I had to look up that "tiramasu" that you mentioned you made at Thanksgiving? ... OMG, does that ever sound good. I googled recipes, I guess it is (kinda) like trifle but only in that there could be many differnt ways it can be made? I saw quite a few variations, but the basic coffee an cream an rich and sweet, mm, mm, all my fav things alright. Ya, sometimes i wish you and Obs could just mail me meals, OK?

I make a mean pot of boiled water, so I'm good for hot honey lemonades, which i could share out lavishly it seems this time of year with all our oldie coldies around here! Hope your bed feels soft on the bod and your kleenex is soft to your nose! Hope your head is feeling OK enough for work?

You and polo and others get your Cal and D levels done, and you said to let you know my recent (first-ever) ones?  Got my results back, normal Cal. My D is only a wee bit lowish - 70. (Severe low would be less than 25. Moderate to mild deficiency is 75 to 200. Ideal is 75 to 200.) So I am not bad at all. : ) C.  



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i love movies at home i will watch the one hoodie suggested when it comes to streaming biggrin



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No. I'll google up info on that one too. Thank you guys, I do like a good flick once in a while. This seems to be the new go-to place for "the movie review channel". smile C.



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have you guys seen Daddys Home 2 with Marky Mark Wahlberg and Will Farrell! So funny!!



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ah! good. thanks. Going to google it up now. C.  ; )



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close. kurt russel  THE CHRISTMAS CHRONICLES biggrinbiggrin



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Hey 5,

Hope your sinuses are going to improve quickly.

Further to our "sidebar" chattering, about colds/flues/sinuses and such, we also touched on movies (curling up at home with a hot lemonade and a good movie sounded wise) ... and you mentioned Christmas movies?, and specifically a Christmas one, with Russell Crowe?? I googled it and, nada. Did i misunderstand what I was searching for? C.



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Canuck wrote:

5,

Lots to be thankful for!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=765Nb0R1kQo

 


 this was awesome! thankyou Canuck



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5,

Lots to be thankful for!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=765Nb0R1kQo

 



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now we go into survival mode with the thanksgiving holiday blankstare



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SIGN ME UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Okay, now that we're all doing better, I think it's time to start considering our extended cruise plans! We need to take advantage of all this healing and go get into some trouble, lol! As much as we're allowed anyway. I'm thrilled to hear you're feeling so many improvements, Five. Very cool indeed!



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Geez, 5.  You're doing great. It sounds like it keeps getting better.  

I'm so happy for you and I'm giving thanks.

 



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hi C,

my edematious legs arn't as awful either. still some from standing at the job.

the rash itched like crazyyyyyyyyyyy. little red/brown dots moving up toward the knee sometimes.  all around my ankle, corisone kept it at bay for years.

swollen skin, also of course i had to scratch it with a cloth cos it was making me nuts. i'm thinking it must have been liver inflamation and filtering problems, or the little monsters were taking a crap and it flushing thru my blood stream confuse

now i barely have one spot that itches a little after a busy day. one small dab of cort. , maybe 1-2 times a month

i'm soooooo happy about this... i had since the early 90's.cry

i'm so happy you are on your labs C. might as well

my skin is responding well to a new face washbiggrin. Cetaphil foam for redness. wow, i tried a new one a few months ago and it didn't work but is great for hand soap.

also, i'm using jojoba oil , argan oil and grapeseed oil.. and my skin is looking better. the mix is mostly golden jojoba, half that amount of argan, and half the amount of argan =the grapeseed.biggrinbiggrin

gut still gets bloated during stress but not much pain.blankstare

i upped my b12 to almost 100mcg from 50mcg and have the energy i was lacking.  don't know my stats but i do feel better.biggrin

we're getting ready for our thanksgiving feast tomorrow. i'm roasting a turkey breast stuffed with apples, having sides of: stove top cornbread stuffing, litely glazed yams with avocado oil and honey, white potato with cheese dust ...i like cheddar dust and hubs likes parmesan. ..aspergus and desert is white cake with tiramasu

we have small servings of everything but like the spread.

when do you get your labs?

 

 



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Nice. I hope so too. Instead of crossing fingers, I got my ankles crossed for you, that your (no rashy ankles) change is a bit of the "new you".  I am crossing my "knock on wood" ankles that have rarely looked edematous since I have been cured. I am very grateful for my non-edematous ankle change look. I can now abuse them with great abandon and leave them dependently hanging/dangling about and marvel at how they do not swell in protest like they used to.

These things (like pedal edema, or ankle rashes) are VERY nice NOT to own.

What kind of rash was it? - what was it like? What do you think was behind it, the cause of it? How long had it plagued you before cure? 

Hey, you are a good influence on me 5, you and others, all this talk of being lab tested and knowing what your cal and D levels are ... I finally managed to get one of these doc to let me have a D and cal test done, hope mine are good, I'll post them sometime when i get the results back. 

How are your guts/and other skin things behaving right now, and how is the diet tolerance going? Later, C. smile



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thot i'd add this here and fingers crossed i'm not jinxing myself

the horrible rash i used to get on my ankles hasn't been back since just after tx



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i'm happy to say that i am able to add my ACV  back to my oatmeal,asparagus , and baby sweet potato pudding

i don't even notice my gums anymore biggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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i did get some pumpkin creamcheese flavored froz yogurt bars.... had one yesterday and one today and they are soooooo yum.

i turned the box over to hubs now; those don't always sit well with me but i was happy to enjoy a cpl of them



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i love avocado too...but had to give it up cos of gut wrench cry ; that and shredded wheat cry

but! i can now eat brussel sprouts and cabbage again as long as it's only 3-4x a week....better than nothing.

i can eat jicima and aspergus daily tho biggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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Thanks Cheddy, so avocado helps absorb Vit D, interesting. I did not know that...I love avocado! Yea!

 

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PoloSilver,

Here's the way my doc presented:  Start by loading 10,000 per day for a week and go to maintenance of 1,000 daily. It sounds like you build it and then maintain it.  I'll stick with these numbers until my next check.  There can be things/combos that can block absorption.  Because it is a fat soluble supplement, I take it with food, especially something like avacado.  It really does make a difference to have your D level right. My insurance declines the tests but I stick with them anyway.

I do agree that sups are sometimes far better than our docs know, given that they are not trained in the area, but I also think we should take them only as needed and with caution.  I think we know ourselves and see results and distractions.  Test well and keep taking care.

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5-- thanks for the info on the pockets...I've had to focus on a spot on the lower right in the back where the pocket was getting a bit deep, so appreciate the info..

C- my primary care doc told me to take 500mg of D per day, and then wrote on my chart 5000 mg of D per day! My vasc doc said 800 mg per day was good for me right now. My Vit D levels were 50 on the last check.



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yes canuck, just a few spots at a time, and no gum disease but this reduces the pockets where food can hide this is the first dentist i've been to that does this......it was quite a surprise. So i guess not everyone is qualified to fry gums blankstare

it's always good to converse about sups.

i agree with the calcium, all sups make my hands swell , so my bod will have to figure it out.

hubs took the G&C and didn't like it; good to hear he might have done himself a favor not taking it.

every once in awhile i think of the k vit

my labs show i always have enough calcium; guess it's good to get a completer vitamin panel at least once  a year.

 

 



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5,

Ah, i get it now, one tooth or section at a time for you, as you present yourself for required dental work, they utilize this laser method on those teeth sites.

Have you ever been told that you had distinct ongoing problematic gum disease, a hx of gum disease?

I have found the very same laser equipment and method IS being used up here in Canada BTW, but perhaps not highly widespread in use?, big city locations i found, apparently this system has been around since about '96?, but of course how long it took/takes for it to become popular/in use in a country or locale may be another thing. 

My 5, we are turning your thread into a very experimental health one, from sups to procedures. wink

Polo, 

I agree with you, we only actually need to use sups, when we actually need to use sups! heehee Sometimes we just are guessing we need them - I think a lot of people look at sups as hope in a bottle. The limited reading I did on arrhythmias? ... it was only the chondroitin component that was mentioned that had that suggested association to possible irregularities, I didn't read that association in regard to the glucosamine - but, who knows!

There are lots of studies on D use as well, and D use has become so increasingly popular - I like what your vas. doc said - you might sup D but just "eat" your calcium - sounds wise - if you read and heed "too much" info, you find you start to want to take more and more things, because ... the knee bone is connected to the hip bone and the hip bone is connected to the ... and so on, and so on ... so many interconnections! - one bit I did pay attention to was making sure I was not creating an imbalance (a deficit) by ignoring my mag and vit K levels in proportion to any increased  cal/D intake/supplementation, because we do need the mag/K (in combination with the cal/D)  to tell us where to lay the calcium down. How much D did your vas. doc suggest you could sup with?? Later, C.



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Wow, I love reading all this information you folks! I am quite fascinated with the info on sups...Canuck --- good to stay away from some of those sups like chondroin and glucosamine...my dad actually had a light stroke several years ago due to afibrillation and the doc suspected the sup he was taking that had glucosamine and chondroin in it. Go lightly friends on the sups. 

BTW,,,you may or may not recall that I recently went through seeing a vascular doc to check all my arteries, head to toe and one of the things they recommended was taking Vitamin D for joints. I have recently researched this a bit and Vitamin D deficiency has been associated with osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis. A friend of mine was having severe issues with pain in the knee, unable to walk very far...and she started taking Vitamin D and a year later she is pain free in the knee. My vascular doc recommended vitamin D and only get calcium in the diet. Simply sharing what I was told and know you need to do your own research...just putting out here. 

5-1-18 --glad all went smooth with the tooth/teeth...hoorah! 



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that's how i found theanine; searching for cortisol reducing sups that wouldnt' make my face go nuts.

and phosphetidyserine ...that's on hold till i get used to theanine

my dentist does minor lasering , it's already ok. No spec. diet, i just chewed on the left side after a few hours. But nothing like vinegar

so be careful if you go searching for this.

.. and he only does it as he does the work.. so far it's once a year on the tooth/teeth he works on. it would be a bad idea to do the whole mouth at one time- that would def be an oatmeal diet and days without chewing or acid foods.

i'm so thankful that i do research on everything; and even my man has learned to look things up now

it's also very nice to enjoy your great research Canuck. thankyou

 



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So, did you have to have ONLY liquids and really, really soft mushy foods only the first/second day (like I was reading)? Milkshakes, soups and such. Do you have to avoid regular hard solid chewing foods for a while, right after you have your gums lasered?? Maybe your lasering is not as "in-depth" as some of the pictorals/descriptions I was seeing in the website links? - in the links, they went all the way down inside your socket, lasering a whole complete layer of the inside socket off, all around inside, all the way to the base of the socket. Maybe in your procedure they are only lasering the very top/outer edges of your visible gums, maybe not so complete or deep, just part of the socket versus the entirety of the socket? 

I am quite intrigued with the concept of lasering, I didn't have a chance today to do any sussing, so will look into it more next week/in future.

Very glad the discomfort is fading.

Ah the miracle of the human condition, our poor ole bodies and souls so tender and easily harmed, so painful life can be, and then, healing bits fall in to play, curious automatic background work occurring, defences sweeping over us to wash and fade the pains away.

Ya tori lumps are weird little things. Oh, and the luteolin, I first stumbled across it from another one of those websites claiming it can cure everything from MS to your dogs cancer (you know wink).  

I am so pleased (so far so good) about you being able to take mag(s), well worth a good trial (I think) - one of the sups where there is less conflicting/divisive opinion about the potential helpfulness/or necessity of it.

Your milk thistle trial and research put me to mind of this ... In the past, I had been taking small amounts of glucosamine and chondroitin on a regular basis (never anything ever close to mega doses) but I took it really quite consistently, for a long time (I would guess it was mostly almost daily on average I was consuming  a dosing). After a long, long while i started to associate some cardiac arrhythmias/flutterings with taking it, I did some reading and of course found something on some website that said yup, and that maybe arrhythmias could happen (the condroitin being blamed), sos, I stopped the chondroitin completely and lo and behold I have had a lessening of these arrhythmias. So, it's hard to say if sups sometimes cause unwanted things, or help, or that they can do both!, and hard to know when we think we might be having sides or improvements from sups, whether it IS the fault of the sup OR maybe it is entirely some other factor or combination of factors at play. My arrhythmias could have easily, in part, had something to do with weight loss, being unfit, not being healthy, being stressed. All plausible. But for now chondroitin will be off my list for sometime, before i consider trialing it again perhaps just as an experiment. The joint discomfort I was taking the gluc and chondroit for (I think) are improving some anyway, perhaps just because of the newer healthier me or maybe in part because of some of the other sups I take - who knows! Main thing? ... cause no harm! wink C.



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hi C,  

by today my gums are ok again. i'm still using the rinse... it's a strong antibacterial that i applied to the area 2 x a day and now once a day.

no brushing of that gum for a few days. he only does the gums of the teeth he works on, so it's a small section-this was 3 teeth gums. 

the first time i had it done i ate citrus...wow... i didn't realize, but it didn't hurt it, just stung a lot for a few.

he doesn't go too deep, just skims the top. hahahha

i never heard of Luteolin  till now. how did you find out about that one?

last nite i started the theanine before bedtime; i did sleep well and it's also supposed to have antihistamine properties ...... so here's hoping biggrinbiggrin

i never heard of a tori, that sounds weird .

yea, my immune system honed in on that little area and took over where the doc left off

 



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oh tig, it breaks my heart to think that happened to you as a child cry.

are you a vet? i wonder if the VA  can help with this.

i hate having the dental work done but 1-3 hrs in the chair is the worst of it; and modern dentistry has come a long way biggrin

when my dentist was a kid he went to a dentist that didn't believe in novocaine  for kidsnoblankstare , so he is extra careful.

 



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Teeth... Great when they’re your friends, evil when they’re against you! They told my parents that my mouth was too small for a full set of teeth and by adolescence they had pulled 8 permanent teeth. Add 4 wisdom teeth at age 19 and I was down 12. Now I have a handful left and they barely serve a purpose. Call me Squirrel... wink

That lasering thing sounds very good. Good versus the knife anyway. I’m sure it’s still quite the procedure to go through. My mouth is getting sore now! Just the thought of dentists makes my wallet and mouth hurt!



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Oh yes, you, me, and polo intrigued with lasering now!  Thanks for the link/further info about the laser - i read that link and then went on further on my own to read many more different ones on the same subject, procedure.

I will research it some more (for my own possible purposes). I will have to find out if anyone up here does it much - you would think so, if it has been done down there for a while now. I'll let you know what i find out about possible availability up here.

So, how many of the teeth got lasered, in just this one trip? And what was this stuff they gave you that you have to put on your teeth at home - some kind of antibiotic liquid or cream or what?

Do they tell you to eat only liquids and soft/soft foods for a the first few days after all this dental work and lasering, and not to brush too much? (Some of the reading I was doing).

hm, who knows, maybe you got me onto lasering now too, and, I'm still gunna havta ask Iris how that special ionizing Vit c shower head is working out for her - that interested me too.

Very interesting research you did on the pros and cons of milk thistle, I am always finding that research can get down right frustrating with all the conflicting opinions, you can research something and find all kinds of compelling, seemingly common sense, reasonable, promising/hopeful sounding results from taking a supplement and if you keep researching it long enough you will find more and more conflicting data and arguments as to why the first stuff you read may not be completely valid! Talk about taking your supplements or reading with a grain of salt. 

I have a handful of sups i like to take too, mostly, in the anti-inflammatory/anti-oxidant family of things - of most interest to me right now is my research (and a little personal experimentation) with luteolin and quercitin. 

Hope the gums and jaw are not too sore tonight, and that you are getting a good rest/recoup/comfort at home. smile C.

Hey, that was interesting too! about your weirdo permanent teeth that did not exist for you - I am not sure I've heard of anyone like that before (missing teeth), other things i have known, like malformations, clefted things, baby teeth that come in with immediate enamel deficits, bony growths like "Tori's" (I have one of those!), but just "missing teeth" I haven't heard about. You are unique in many ways my dear. 



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polo, me either till i met this dentist; i sure wasn't ready for it that day but i'm a believer now



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no teeth pain...just some dull gum irritation, which is normal.

i had a full , fun and easy day. i'm thankful to have more feeling good days @ 4 months eot .

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Great news overall! I've not heard of Laser for gums/teeth concerns either, wow! 



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i hear ya tig. tooth envy..me too. i look at teeth and always wonder if they had to have as much work as me.

i've been going to the dentist since childhood and still they are always in need of something.

i was born without a permanent tooth on the lower right, and upper left so i had to address these early in life

i still have to replace the upper left sometime next yearblankstare

i too wish they had an allowance for teeth cos for sure that is part of our health. working part time is the only way i keep up with all what's needed. 

today they feel better but that whole area knows it was beat up pretty good.

 



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Hey 5,

How‘s the chops today? I wish I could afford some new teeth. Medicare should cover that for us retired 60 somethings here in the US. I’ll never understand why that isn’t part of the deal. It’s when people have the most trouble and in my case, the least money! Treatment with Interferon, twice, damaged the supporting bone around some teeth. I’ve lost some of them and would really like to get a few implants, to fill in the voids. It would sure make chewing easier. We didn’t have today‘s advances in dental care back when I was a kid. It really was like torture. Novacaine doesn’t work well on me, so it was always painful. I find myself looking at a persons teeth before I look at their eyes. Strange huh? Tooth envy!

Anyhoo, I hope things are improving daily for you. smile



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i do have ragweed etc. allergies. i also can only take echnacia a few days only if i really need it. >>>. allergies  cry

i didn't notice any of this when i had hcv, but i'm all about feeling better now and i don't need the MT like i did

C, they did all the prep work yesterday and put on a temp bridge biggrin , i go back after thanksgiving for the real one. i rather go a week longer to get a cpl extra hours of sleep. this temp one looks nice tho

that is a beautiful picture

the gums: remember when they used to actually cut the gums away for gum disease? it left ppl in pain for weeks. The laser takes a little off the top by the gum. it removes the flabby gums so they don't get diseased easily. 

the first time he did it i worried he was out of line...now i've have a lot of gum done as he replaces sick crowns. this way the new crown has a new bed too.

we have been slowly replacing work done from 25-50yrs ago. This bridge replacement got rid of the cavity below it ... i am a happy camper today. just a little sore and hung over from the ibuprophen, but i am enjoying time off from work

here is some info on the gum lasering:

The Secret is Out: Lasers Can Save Your Teeth
  • Traditional Surgery. Regular or traditional periodontal surgery involves the use of a scalpel to cut and push back the gums to access the tooth root, root cleaning, bone shaping, and then stitching the gums back together at a lower level. ...
  • LANAP Laser Gum Surgery. ...
  • Ask Your Doctor What's Right for You.

The Secret is Out: Lasers Can Save Your Teeth - Millennium Dental ...


https://www.lanap.com/2016/04/21/lasers-can-save-teeth-lanap/

 

 



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Hope they didn't get too carried away with rebuilding your bridge!

Image result for lovely bridges

2 hours! Sheesh.

Well, whatever they did - good for you, brave girl, for going and getting it done. Gotta take care of number one. Fast rule.

I am intrigued ... I give my dental people lots of money, but I have NEVER been given any laser-thingies - (hmpph, I want healthy gums too, big-time!), how often do they "laser" your gums? or is that just a one-time/one-off thing, and what kinda stuff is this stuff that you are supposed to put on your teeth (or gums) twice a day?? Are both these things just for anti-infective purposes (sorta). Just curious. I bet your choppers look marverlous, even if they don't feel nice at the moment, and will now work good for you for a very long time due to your investment in them and yourself. Good plan.

Sorry you are sore, I'm glad you took the Advil - you know the drill, if the discomfort gets worse or does not dissipate quickly over the next day or so, approach them for follow-up. : ) C.

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I believe Cinnamon Girl had some gastric issues with MT. Could be allergies, it is in the Asteraceae family, so if one has issue with those plants it would make a lot of sense.

Good to hear the dentist went well, yeah smile you'll be chewing it up real soon.

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i'm happy to say it went well today at the dentist.

i was def happy to be outta the chair after 2hrs tho

i've been taking advil and that helps. he also lasers the gums to keep the gums healthier. i have special stuff to put on it 2 x a day.

so yea, it's sore but done! 

i'm resting and watching star trek orig. and eating soft foods.

everyone was ,of course , happy that i got cured with harvoni biggrin



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feeling good today.. off i go to get my new bridge biggrinbiggrin



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Hey 5,

I haven’t ever had side effects from MT, but your information is an eye opener for those that are experiencing issues such as yours.

Back in another life, I worked for the Postal Service and spent my day on my feet, standing and walking on that same concrete floor. It was hard on every part, feet, knees, hips and back. We were provided with very good anti-fatigue mats and I purchased shoes called Rocky Walkers. The combination almost eliminated the discomfort. Don’t stop looking for a solution.



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skipping milk thistle a few days made a difference in my feet and gut....so here's hoping that's all it was since i really don't need it anymore



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cheddy, dolly says it all. thank you biggrin



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