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I would help someone, but I'm not going to spend time doing it for free. I cant charge for it either, so Ill have to think about it for a while. I spent a year researching hep c cures, and buying over $1400. of herbs etc. Now that I know what works, I should be compensated the time and money spent, especially when my life has been misfortunate.

So the answer is that I am not going give out free information, that isn't happening! All the naysayers on the forums make me not want to help anyone for free. No one helped me for free, all I got was mixed up information all over the internet...I had to make sense of it all with a year of work while suffering an multiple illnesses.


Hi Joe, I think you`ve made your motives for posting here clear enough by the above comments, and rather than allow you to waste any more of our members` valuable time and energy by soliciting funds for untested and unproven means to treat Hep C I have now banned you from posting on this forum again. 

This forum welcomes all genuine members and we are always interested in hearing about people`s Hep C related histories and stories, but we cannot tolerate anyone trying to mislead or misinform in order to gain financially from vulnerable sick people.

Thanks for sharing you story, for what it`s worth, but you don`t belong here. 

Jill (forum owner)



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Thanks for all the contributions but I believe the time to close this individual thread has come. Anyone wishing to persue the subject is free to start a new thread. 

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Hi Joe,

I requested some information from you as a condition to continue with your claims. You failed to do that and indeed have stated that you won't release that information for free. To me that is a solicitation of payment, either direct or implied and that is a violation of our terms and rules of conduct. Your time here has been enlightening and sad all at the same time. I wish you luck in the future and suggest you see a real Hepatologist and get the appropriate testing completed. You see soup, herbs and weed might make you feel better but I'm sorry sir, they won't cure you or reverse cirrhosis. Be well Joe and goodbye.

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Hi Joe,

Unfortunately, stable is not the same as cured or gone.  The viral load test is the test that shows if the virus is still in your blood.  Stable generally means that there is no indication of increased activity.  Biopsy shows the amount of damage to the liver.

You, like all of us, want to be rid of this virus.  Please use all avenues of testing available to see if what you believe is actually true. My doctors over the years did not do viral load testing.  It is most generally used, initially, to see if one has HepC, or, in treatment, to see if the virus is going down or gone.   

You are correct that none of us know what the long term effects of these meds are.  Meds affect different people differently and we all recognize that these are new meds.  I decided to take a chance on a clinical trial--others may not want to do that.  Treating or not treating is a personal choice that we all have to make--for ANY disease.

If it were me, I'd go back in and request viral load test now instead of later--or, at the very least, call my doctor to see what was meant by stable.  It may be , in your hope to be rid of HepC, that you have misunderstood what was meant by "stable"    It is unfortunate that many doctors do not take the time to help us understand what the tests mean.  That is why so many use forums to find out valuable information. 

Please let us know what the doctor says about "stable"  And, don't get discouraged if you find that it does not mean cured.  The new meds are great AND NO INTERFERON.  They have very high (like 95 to 99%) cure rates.  Hope is a thing of the present-- not the future--as it once was.

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I still need to go back to my doctor in 4 months to see what my status is. Also all I was told is that everything is "Stable". I'm not sure what that means, the nurse didn't seem to know either. Does it mean that the virus is gone, or that it could come back, or that it's still there but not active??? I will request the viral load and possibly a biopsy in 4 months.

You ALL may think that taking Interferon or Solvaldi is the one trick pony, but what you don't know is, will that medication cause other problems in the future like CANCER? It's too soon to know. All I know is I took the slow and safer route to healing!!!



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It's not my word, it's the doctor's word. She's a Gastroenterolgy Specialist, I'm sure she knows what she is talking about.



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Hi All,

I know there are several people who claim they have cured HepC with their supplements.  Lloyd Wright and Johnny Delirious both claim that.  I took supplements for a number of years.  I went to a doctor that gave IV's ( He did NOT claim they would cure HepC, but could/might help with liver damage).  I know some people that got better in the area of damage caused by HepC.  My numbers stayed low, but the damage to my liver continued.  I had progressed to cirrhosis (determined by biopsy) by the time these wonderful new meds became available.  Other than fatigue, I had little side effects from my HepC.  I had no dream that the supplements would "cure" Hep C.  Long ago, Vertex talked about a cure without interferon--but it didn't come to fruition back then. 

My signature lines tell the tale.  I looked for trials and was greatly encouraged by an email friend who was lucky enough to get in the early COSMOS trial.  She cleared and kept after me to check out trials.  I followed her advice and was fortunate enough to get my Merck trial.  I was SVR 12 on April 1 and that is no April Fool joke.  I do believe that supplements and healthy living MAY help with the symptoms of HepC, but these little "magic pills" from Merck did the trick--nothing else. 

And JOE, interferon is largely a med of the past or will be shortly.  I do hope that you do a viral load test and biopsy to be sure that what you believe is true.  It would be great for you if it is. I kinda liked a couple of pills a day for 18 weeks, few side effects and a proven SVR 12 weeks after my mostly uneventful trial.  Much easier than soup and supplements for a year. And, yes, Gilead has a program that has reduced its' cost to very low co-pays for many. 

SuziQ       



-- Edited by suziq on Sunday 4th of May 2014 03:05:25 PM

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Gilead has years of research and clinical trials and solid proof and data to back them. 

You have a claim of cure by your word only. And nobody with an ounce of intelligence is going to take the word of a soup eating, dope smoking idiot without proof.

Now go light one up and enjoy your soup. 



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1A. Previously treated non responder Rebetron in 2000 And Incevik in 2014 with a breakthrough at week 12. Fibroscan 15.5. VL 6,000,000. Finished 24 weeks harvoni on Dec. 19, 2015. SVR. Latest Fibroscan 8.8.



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Because I cured my disease, it's a pitch? Go do some more Interferon and stick it deep this time! Just because I cured myself and won't give my hard earned info for free, it's a pitch? That's nonsense, you don't see Gilead giving out free pills, DO YOU?



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And there you have it folks. The sales pitch revealed.

Shame on you for trying to take advantage of those with a chronic disease. There is no natural cure for hep c or cirrhosis. And I really wish people could be charged for trying to sell such nonsense.

Good thing this site is full of knowledgable, informed, up to date advocates from whom we get legitimate advice from.



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1A. Previously treated non responder Rebetron in 2000 And Incevik in 2014 with a breakthrough at week 12. Fibroscan 15.5. VL 6,000,000. Finished 24 weeks harvoni on Dec. 19, 2015. SVR. Latest Fibroscan 8.8.



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I'm as surprised as anyone, REALLY! I gave up 6 months ago on healing myself, you would too if bloodwork came back as posistive. Last month everything was stable with no traces of the disease. I DON'T KNOW WHY, ALL I CAN DO IS TRACE BACK TO WHAT I DID, AND ASSUME THAT THAT IS HOW YOU CURE THE DISEASE...POSSIBLY ANY DISEASE!!!

I'd like to help people, but would also be compensated, since I spent a year researching every day and $1400 on herbs. And jobless. So if I were compensated, maybe if I open a fund, I can be compensated. But do you think Gilead wants to hear this ****?

I would not make this up, this is all very real. I've researched the natural cures for hep c, and you never really find any that are 100% real. In this case, it's for real.



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I would help someone, but I'm not going to spend time doing it for free. I cant charge for it either, so Ill have to think about it for a while. I spent a year researching hep c cures, and buying over $1400. of herbs etc. Now that I know what works, I should be compensated the time and money spent, especially when my life has been misfortunate.

So the answer is that I am not going give out free information, that isn't happening! All the naysayers on the forums make me not want to help anyone for free. No one helped me for free, all I got was mixed up information all over the internet...I had to make sense of it all with a year of work while suffering an multiple illnesses.



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Joe, 

Suspending my incredulity and giving you a (totally unwarranted) benefit of the doubt that you had HCV for years which progressed to cirrhosis and that you have cured yourself without medication, for the reasons others posters have stated (i.e., the suffering and sacrifices we have endured in fighting this virus with medication, in many cases without success, and trying to get coverage for new treatments), I daresay it is highly irresponsible for you to suggest that whatever you think brought about your claimed miracle cure would work on anyone else. 

If you are an honest and decent person, in the highly unlikely event that what you claim about your situation is true, just thank your lucky stars for the miracle, but don't peddle it to others as a cure.  On this forum people are well-informed, but if you were to persuade an uninformed, gullible HCV sufferer to do what you did and be assured of cure, I think morally you would be one step, a baby step, removed from a murderer.  

Buy lottery tickets given your miraculous luck, but don't be a mountebank.  

Keep in touch with yourself, Joe.

   

 

 



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Thanks Tig

Proof is good, real data from lab reports is better, and people who provide neither are not worth the time. 

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Hi Joe,

Lets see, you were first diagnosed with HCV in 1991, right? You didn't treat because of depression and suicidal ideation, right? Now 3 years ago you had a biopsy that indicated you were cirrhotic, with a viral load of 2 million, right? Are you saying that sometime in the last 3 years, taking some herbal supplements, smoking lots of weed and eating soup, cured your Hep C and "cured" your cirrhosis? Is that what you want us to believe? Consider your answer carefully. We're not here to play games, but are dealing with a serious disease that has affected the lives of everyone here and ended the lives of some that aren't. This isn't a joke and I'm going to ask if you can provide some proof of your claims. There are some doubters here and to be honest, professional research and trial data doesnt support your claims either. So please provide some information and include the chronological treatment plan you mentioned having before we continue with these claims.

People are fighting daily to beat this disease, spending countless hundreds of thousands of dollars to do so, not to mention their personal suffering and that of their families/friends to obtain the health and lifestyle you claim some vitamins, soup and lots of weed have delivered to you. Please prove it or move on, thank you.

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Maybe the weed killed it, I don't know.


 That's the ticket!  It must have been the weed.

JoeWilson, I think you are probably well intentioned and possibly high.   biggrin   I wish you well.  



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You must be on Interferon, by attacking me like that. Being negative like that is not a good way to cure anything. Not sure why you want to tear people down like that. Hopefully the doctor wasn't smoking when they gave me the good news of me being stable!

 

 



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Put joe the troll  on ignore  .....



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Proof that weed will eventually fry your brain.



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I need to backtrack to see exactly what I did to rid the disease. I gave up on it 6 months ago trying to heal, but basically for last six months just ate soup for lunch and dinner. Also took basic herbs just so, I figured the soup would give me a better chance than eating pizza and beer!

The only bad thing I've done all along is smoking cigarettes and smoking lot's of weed. Maybe the weed killed it, I don't know.



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Joe, I have an open mind.  Please tell us what you used to cure your HCV?  I'm very Thankful you no longer have to deal with this insidious disease.  Truly happy for you.  Be well. 

Sorry Joe, my post came seconds after yours.  Take care.

 



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I am still surprised that it is undetectable, although, it could come back. I don't know. I do know that it was detected in 1991, and I just let it go since I suffer major depression, and my doctor wouldn't put me on Interferon since I was unstable and suicidal. I had a biopsy a few years ago and the doctor said I had cirrhosis and that is was at its middle stage. I'd have to check my bloodwork, but believe my count was 2 million.

I searched Google for "how to cure hep c naturally" over 40 times, and researched all products for a year before beginning my own treatment. Some of the things I've taken was b-12, enchinacea goldenseal, mms, yellow dock, ncd2...you name it, I've probably taken it or done it. If you want to cure your disease, then you need to do everything possible til it goes away. I ate eggs and toast for breakfast and for lunch and dinner ate soup (over a year). I limited any sweets. I smoked cigarettes. I don't drink alcohol.

I've cured it! You can too! I'd need to back-track to see what I did, when, and how much. I did things in a certain order, I guess that would only make sense to someone who really wanted to cure themselves...considering, I had no other option (suicidal/depression).



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All kidding aside I hope this snake oil salesman isn't able to receive PMs. I don't think anyone would be foolish enough to fall for it but illness can cause people to do desperate things, which is exactly what people like this prey on.

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Amazing! Where do I send my check for these miraculous herbs? To think I've been waiting for a miracle of modern science all these many years and all along I just had to buy some weeds from Joe Wilson.

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believe me. if there was a natural cure, there would be no one in this forum. lol  such false info.....no



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Had enough yet, JoeWilson?  Oh, and btw, have a nice day.  smile

<Just kidding.>  I can't help but see the humor in this situation.  



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Please don't waste our time with such nonsense. There is no natural 'cure' for HepC, and cirrhosis doesn't resolve in a year.

Please go elsewhere.



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Hi Joe,

We're not here to bust your chops, but the way you started out, sounds just like the spammers we get here everyday. They start by claiming something very incredible and then they start selling their snake oil. You prefaced your success with "contact me" and I'll tell you about it. That's a big indication of someone trying to sell something and we won't allow anyone to use our membership to sell anything. If you'd like to share your success story on the open forum, please do. I'd love to hear about it myself. I was a firm believer in using some supplements to help me prior to treatment and believe I had some positive results through the years. But again, we're a support group and welcome open ideas and fellowship to support each other before, during and after treatment. If you'd like to be part of that, by all means join in. I invite you to introduce yourself in our New Members section and tell us how you managed to achieve SVR. I sounds to me that your own immune system, utilizing diet and supplements was able to defeat the active infection. That happens in 20-30% of all initial HCV infections, those that don't, go on to the chronic phase, which is the majority of our members here. Once in the chronic phase of infection, the percentage of people that manage to achieve SVR on their own is very, very remote, if at all. But please, if you would like to share your story in our New Members section, I would love to hear it. Thanks for explaining your original post. We have to protect the forum and the interests of our membership. We're very strict about that. I'm sure you understand...

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Or you were just one of the 30% that can rid the virus on your own and your herbs were merely a coincidence. Hopefully you remain undetectable. Best of luck to you sir.



-- Edited by Enavigo3891 on Sunday 4th of May 2014 12:44:33 AM

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A year ago I had a biopsy done and had cirrhosis of the liver, also blood work showed that I had low good cholesteral. So I did certain things that I thought would help my liver, six months later I got a blood test and my blood work was still off. So I gave up on hoping to cure the Hep C but still kept taking certain herbs and other things. Just last month I went for a consultation my doctor, she had me do ultrasound and bloodwork. It turns out that the virus is no longer detectable. I don't believe my doctor would lie to me, when I was going to do Solvaldi. Doesn't make sense, does it?

I know this is unusual, but it seems I took the right herbs and ate the right foods to rid the disease. I don't care if you believe me or not, I'm not here to prove anything!



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I think I'll just spontaneously combust. That oughta kill the virus AND I won't have to read nonsense like this anymore! 


 Too funny OldenSlow.  You took the words right out of my mouth.   BTW, your screen name is a hoot!



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I think I'll just spontaneously combust. That oughta kill the virus AND I won't have to read nonsense like this anymore! 



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Hi Joe,

Let me start by congratulating you on your miraculous cure. I'm thrilled that you were able to acheive SVR via the means you had at your disposal. I'd also like to say that I've reviewed your tags and your post. So far I see no indication that you've posted any spam or unwanted material, and ask that you keep it that way please. There is absolutely no spam or sales information allowed whatsoever, nor is individual solicitation of our membership. As long as you understand our terms and rules of conduct, all is fine. Any introduction of such material and it will be removed immediately. Now, let me welcome you to the forum!!

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I'm living proof that I cured Hep C without any medications. Don't stray the public to think that only a man-made medication can cure disease, that is totally false information!

I cured my Hep C without any help from any doctor! So YES, it can be cured! I had cirrhosis of the liver and now it's undetectable through ultrasound. I may be the ONLY ONE that has for sure cured it naturally, but I did. I know there are many people on the Internet that say maybe, or did but then came back...I found a natural way that kills the damn disease right in it's tracks!!! Contact me and I'll tell you how I did it. And it's not by buying this or that product, that's all lies. I know it can be done, because I've done it by following a few steps and giving it time to heal your cirrhosis. It takes at least a year to heal, just as hep c and cirrhosis took time to cause issues with your organs.



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